Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate

Saint_LB · 12-05-2012, 06:11 AM

50% of the people voted for Obama. 49% voted for Romney. 1% of the 49% have 99% of the money. I have no problem with them wanting "their boy" to be president.

However, it is my opinion that the definition of "moron" is the 48% that voted for Romney "thinking" they are part of that 1%.

I have a clue for you guys. Professional wrestling is not real.

SloMotion · 12-05-2012, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

Professional wrestling is not real.

Thanks! At least I still have my belief in Santa Claus to hold on to,

... and there's a lot of truth in the other stuff you said.

As for Costas, I heard that condescending remark he made about his listening audience ... what a pompous SOB to assume everyone watching the game even sat around during halftime to catch his show ... I didn't ... learned long ago there's never much interesting or pertinent to my enjoyment of a football game going on at halftime, other than if they have a marching band. Didn't even realize he'd made those stupid remarks until it was posted up on the board,

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skymike · 12-05-2012, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

However, it is my opinion that the definition of "moron" is the 48% that voted for Romney "thinking" they are part of that 1%.
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I dont believe in the "1 %" as portrayed anyway, which is a silly term designed to ignite class envy. I dont resent rich people. They tend to employ poor people like me. The WORKED for what they have in most cases.

Saint_LB · 12-05-2012, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

I dont believe in the "1 %" as portrayed anyway, which is a silly term designed to ignite class envy. I dont resent rich people. They tend to employ poor people like me. The WORKED for what they have in most cases.

I don't resent rich people. I don't understand people who want to be "buds" with the rich when they are, in fact, part of the other group. I hope you didn't miss that point.

You may have a million dollars saved-up...but that doesn't put you in the class of guys that make jets and tanks. IMO, the GOP is for those guys.

skymike · 12-05-2012, 07:27 AM

mmmm, not really seeing the villainry of people who make jets and tanks.
Brown & Root here in Houston, I believe was a big military builder during Nam.
They still employ a jillion middle class people, and pay a durn good wage...

... but I know what you're saying... If I was in a room with Dick Cheney, would he acknowledge me? I dont know.

I could tell him Im also very Bible Thumpy and Im definitely in the pockets of Big Oil.

Big Oil is the reason my kid's school kicks ass, and my entire town profits from
their presence.

Of course, I'm a minority, so according to Some, I cant even get into the room. But I dont believe what Some says.

Originally Posted by TheOak

..... I know of a 100mm QB that is resented for his 100mm...Just saying

I am, when it affects my ticket prices, and the long term solvency of the entire league.

Saint_LB · 12-05-2012, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

mmmm, not really seeing the villainry of people who make jets and tanks.

Where did I say theses guys are villians? I just don't think my interests and their interests are the same...and I admittedly could be wrong, but since I haven't made a fortune, I am going to do whatever I can do to keep as much money in my pocket as I can. I don't believe that raising my taxes is going to do that.

If they take the money out of their pocket, I am going to be happier, and I never said it was fair. It is just what I would choose if given the opportunity and that's one thing that I think we had to decide this election year.

SloMotion · 12-05-2012, 08:18 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

... but I know what you're saying... If I was in a room with Dick Cheney, would he acknowledge me? I dont know.

... you just better hope he's not in that room quail hunting,

... but that's how I interpreted it. This election was kinda' goofy to me, I saw people who would benefit from Obama's policies voting for Romney & vice versa. All I could assume (there's that word again, maybe I should start a thread,

) was that they didn't really grasp the issues.

burningmetal · 12-05-2012, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Saint_LB

I don't resent rich people. I don't understand people who want to be "buds" with the rich when they are, in fact, part of the other group. I hope you didn't miss that point.

You may have a million dollars saved-up...but that doesn't put you in the class of guys that make jets and tanks. IMO, the GOP is for those guys.

If you think people who earn money should have it taken away, then you should consider quitting your job. Because it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, if you believe the government has the right to simply take people's money. I bet if you won the lottery you'd change your opinion on the way the rich are taxed.

And as Mike said, it is the rich who employ us. You sound exactly like Bob Costas in accusing us to be "dumb enough" to think we are a part of some 1 percent you've thrown out there. Unbelievably condescending. You really think we don't know that we're not rich? I voted for the candidate that I believed would best handle and grow our economy, so that I and everyone else could have a decent job without worrying if it will go out of business.

This is the problem with liberals. They always want to know what their government can do for them. They want the government to over tax the wealthy so that they can get the benefits from it. This is called socialism, by the way. But as for me? I don't blame my financial situation on the rich. I would just like the opportunity to EARN the most that I can.

SloMotion · 12-06-2012, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

If you think people who earn money should have it taken away, then you should consider quitting your job. Because it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, if you believe the government has the right to simply take people's money. I bet if you won the lottery you'd change your opinion on the way the rich are taxed.

And as Mike said, it is the rich who employ us. You sound exactly like Bob Costas in accusing us to be "dumb enough" to think we are a part of some 1 percent you've thrown out there. Unbelievably condescending. You really think we don't know that we're not rich? I voted for the candidate that I believed would best handle and grow our economy, so that I and everyone else could have a decent job without worrying if it will go out of business.

This is the problem with liberals. They always want to know what their government can do for them. They want the government to over tax the wealthy so that they can get the benefits from it. This is called socialism, by the way. But as for me? I don't blame my financial situation on the rich. I would just like the opportunity to EARN the most that I can.

There is a fine-line there though, and you really have to fight, IMO, not to stray too far of the left or right of the line ... not all rich-people are business-owners and not all business-owners are rich, just as not all rich-people are employers, nor are all employers rich. There's a ton of other issues that compound the debate as well.

Hypothetically, the govt. shouldn't have the right to take someone's hard-earned paycheck, but there's roads to build, borders to protect, infrastructure to maintain & the elderly/disabled to care for. I've lived in third world countries where the wealthiest rule unchecked and they have no conscience ... these are the countries where you will find the most abject poverty and lack of any type of infrastructure.

People should be able to enjoy the fruits of their labor, but we have a responsibility to our country and fellow man. We also need smaller government and a way to prevent our elected officials on Capitol Hill from abusing the system.

It's a fine line.

skymike · 12-06-2012, 07:44 AM

Very nice.
I'll vote for you SloMotion.
You do support guns and religion, right?

12-05-2012, 06:11 AM	#1
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate 50% of the people voted for Obama. 49% voted for Romney. 1% of the 49% have 99% of the money. I have no problem with them wanting "their boy" to be president. However, it is my opinion that the definition of "moron" is the 48% that voted for Romney "thinking" they are part of that 1%. I have a clue for you guys. Professional wrestling is not real. SloMotion likes this.
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12-05-2012, 06:26 AM	#2
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Originally Posted by Saint_LB Professional wrestling is not real. Thanks! At least I still have my belief in Santa Claus to hold on to, ... and there's a lot of truth in the other stuff you said. As for Costas, I heard that condescending remark he made about his listening audience ... what a pompous SOB to assume everyone watching the game even sat around during halftime to catch his show ... I didn't ... learned long ago there's never much interesting or pertinent to my enjoyment of a football game going on at halftime, other than if they have a marching band. Didn't even realize he'd made those stupid remarks until it was posted up on the board, .

12-05-2012, 06:39 AM	#3
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Originally Posted by Saint_LB However, it is my opinion that the definition of "moron" is the 48% that voted for Romney "thinking" they are part of that 1%. . I dont believe in the "1 %" as portrayed anyway, which is a silly term designed to ignite class envy. I dont resent rich people. They tend to employ poor people like me. The WORKED for what they have in most cases. RockyMountainSaint and burningmetal like this.

12-05-2012, 06:58 AM	#4
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Originally Posted by skymike I dont believe in the "1 %" as portrayed anyway, which is a silly term designed to ignite class envy. I dont resent rich people. They tend to employ poor people like me. The WORKED for what they have in most cases. I don't resent rich people. I don't understand people who want to be "buds" with the rich when they are, in fact, part of the other group. I hope you didn't miss that point. You may have a million dollars saved-up...but that doesn't put you in the class of guys that make jets and tanks. IMO, the GOP is for those guys. OldMaid likes this.
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12-05-2012, 07:27 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate mmmm, not really seeing the villainry of people who make jets and tanks. Brown & Root here in Houston, I believe was a big military builder during Nam. They still employ a jillion middle class people, and pay a durn good wage... ... but I know what you're saying... If I was in a room with Dick Cheney, would he acknowledge me? I dont know. I could tell him Im also very Bible Thumpy and Im definitely in the pockets of Big Oil. Big Oil is the reason my kid's school kicks ass, and my entire town profits from their presence. Of course, I'm a minority, so according to Some, I cant even get into the room. But I dont believe what Some says. Originally Posted by TheOak ..... I know of a 100mm QB that is resented for his 100mm...Just saying I am, when it affects my ticket prices, and the long term solvency of the entire league.
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12-05-2012, 08:10 AM	#6
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Originally Posted by skymike mmmm, not really seeing the villainry of people who make jets and tanks. Where did I say theses guys are villians? I just don't think my interests and their interests are the same...and I admittedly could be wrong, but since I haven't made a fortune, I am going to do whatever I can do to keep as much money in my pocket as I can. I don't believe that raising my taxes is going to do that. If they take the money out of their pocket, I am going to be happier, and I never said it was fair. It is just what I would choose if given the opportunity and that's one thing that I think we had to decide this election year.
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Whether you think you can or think you can't...you're right!

12-05-2012, 08:18 AM	#7
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Originally Posted by skymike ... but I know what you're saying... If I was in a room with Dick Cheney, would he acknowledge me? I dont know. ... you just better hope he's not in that room quail hunting, ... but that's how I interpreted it. This election was kinda' goofy to me, I saw people who would benefit from Obama's policies voting for Romney & vice versa. All I could assume (there's that word again, maybe I should start a thread, ) was that they didn't really grasp the issues.

12-05-2012, 07:02 PM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Originally Posted by Saint_LB I don't resent rich people. I don't understand people who want to be "buds" with the rich when they are, in fact, part of the other group. I hope you didn't miss that point. You may have a million dollars saved-up...but that doesn't put you in the class of guys that make jets and tanks. IMO, the GOP is for those guys. If you think people who earn money should have it taken away, then you should consider quitting your job. Because it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, if you believe the government has the right to simply take people's money. I bet if you won the lottery you'd change your opinion on the way the rich are taxed. And as Mike said, it is the rich who employ us. You sound exactly like Bob Costas in accusing us to be "dumb enough" to think we are a part of some 1 percent you've thrown out there. Unbelievably condescending. You really think we don't know that we're not rich? I voted for the candidate that I believed would best handle and grow our economy, so that I and everyone else could have a decent job without worrying if it will go out of business. This is the problem with liberals. They always want to know what their government can do for them. They want the government to over tax the wealthy so that they can get the benefits from it. This is called socialism, by the way. But as for me? I don't blame my financial situation on the rich. I would just like the opportunity to EARN the most that I can.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-06-2012, 07:00 AM	#9
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Originally Posted by burningmetal If you think people who earn money should have it taken away, then you should consider quitting your job. Because it doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, if you believe the government has the right to simply take people's money. I bet if you won the lottery you'd change your opinion on the way the rich are taxed. And as Mike said, it is the rich who employ us. You sound exactly like Bob Costas in accusing us to be "dumb enough" to think we are a part of some 1 percent you've thrown out there. Unbelievably condescending. You really think we don't know that we're not rich? I voted for the candidate that I believed would best handle and grow our economy, so that I and everyone else could have a decent job without worrying if it will go out of business. This is the problem with liberals. They always want to know what their government can do for them. They want the government to over tax the wealthy so that they can get the benefits from it. This is called socialism, by the way. But as for me? I don't blame my financial situation on the rich. I would just like the opportunity to EARN the most that I can. There is a fine-line there though, and you really have to fight, IMO, not to stray too far of the left or right of the line ... not all rich-people are business-owners and not all business-owners are rich, just as not all rich-people are employers, nor are all employers rich. There's a ton of other issues that compound the debate as well. Hypothetically, the govt. shouldn't have the right to take someone's hard-earned paycheck, but there's roads to build, borders to protect, infrastructure to maintain & the elderly/disabled to care for. I've lived in third world countries where the wealthiest rule unchecked and they have no conscience ... these are the countries where you will find the most abject poverty and lack of any type of infrastructure. People should be able to enjoy the fruits of their labor, but we have a responsibility to our country and fellow man. We also need smaller government and a way to prevent our elected officials on Capitol Hill from abusing the system. It's a fine line. Crusader, Budsdrinker and OldMaid like this.

12-06-2012, 07:44 AM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Keeping Football and Political agenda-opinion separate Very nice. I'll vote for you SloMotion. You do support guns and religion, right? SloMotion likes this.

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