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[papz]

Mingo has been playing between 240-250 lbs the majority of his tenure at LSU. That's plenty big enough for an OLB. He also played some safety his senior year in high school, so he adds an extra dimension with his ability to drop back on certain plays.

If we're looking for a high BOOM player, Mingo or Ansah fits the bill. Both of their upside are tremendous. Mingo is rated higher and comes with less risk... both are still raw around the edges though.

[FinSaint]

Originally Posted by papz

Mingo also played some safety his senior year in high school, so he adds an extra dimension with his ability to drop back on certain plays.

Dion Jordan also has that ability to drop back, which is why I thought that he could probably start as an OLB, and then as he bulks up and learns the game, he could move to DE.

In 2012, Jordan showcased his versatility to the nation against Arizona State, lining up on the line of scrimmage as a stand-up defensive end, in the box as a linebacker or in the slot, covering inside receivers. Yes - in the slot on receivers, a spot usually reserved for defensive backs.

Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

[jeanpierre]

I haven't seen a mock draft yet where Mingo actually fell to us...

[lsutigerfan]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I haven't seen a mock draft yet where Mingo actually fell to us...

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[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

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Fair enough...but, I'm not buying that he falls...

[jeanpierre]

Justin Smith: 49ers “loaded” with “ridiculous” talent | ProFootballTalk

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

(Justin) Smith was the fourth overall pick in the 2001 NFL draft, and he’s one of 15 players on the 49ers’ roster who was a first-round draft pick.

This is why I'm in the minority and am critical of Mickey Loomis; and if he's not a personnel guy and just a salary cap man, then why doesn't he get someone who's better and who does a better job with the first round picks?!?

You've got to make those first rounders count, and the Saints haven't and that's why I am even more amazed at the job that Coach Payton has done...

[Danno]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Justin Smith: 49ers “loaded” with “ridiculous” talent | ProFootballTalk



This is why I'm in the minority and am critical of Mickey Loomis; and if he's not a personnel guy and just a salary cap man, then why doesn't he get someone who's better and who does a better job with the first round picks?!?

You've got to make those first rounders count, and the Saints haven't and that's why I am even more amazed at the job that Coach Payton has done...

We haven't done badly with 1st rounders under Payton/Loomis, we just haven't hit on many 'elite" players

Jordan (looks great so far)
Ingram (solid for a late round 1st)
Robinson (32nd pick, jury still out)
Jenkins (jury still out, but hope is fading)
Ellis (not a bust, but underperforming)
Meachem (meh, average player)
Bush (certainly not a bust by any standard)

We don't have a bust anywhere on that list. A few under-performers but no Sullivans.

I'm sure we're better off than most teams 1st round picks.

[lee909]

Bucky Brooks new mock has Star Lotulelli going to the Panthers.If that was happening would you try and deal with the Buccs to move up and snatch him?

[dizzle88]

Originally Posted by lee909

Bucky Brooks new mock has Star Lotulelli going to the Panthers.If that was happening would you try and deal with the Buccs to move up and snatch him?

Me personally, no

Only because he's a 4-3 DT, remember all we've done the past few years is draft players and move them to different positions, hasn't worked out well at all

Or like danno says so often, Square peg needs a Square Hole

I'd only draft players that we know can come into our system and make an impact straight away, not have to learn a whole different type of D

[lee909]

Star Lotulelei

PositionTSchool:Utah
Height:6' 4"Weight:320 lbs
Class:Senior40 time:unk
All-Star Game:NoneTeam Captain:No
Overall Rank:5Position Rank:1
Draft Projection:



Initial Thoughts

Jimmy O’Brien: Lotulelei could have declared for the 2012 draft, and would likely have battled Dontari Poe to be the first nose tackle selected. Unlike Poe, who possesses rare movement skills for a player of his size, with the flexibility to play anywhere in the defensive front, Lotulelei is more a classic 3-4 space eating nose tackle, with the strength to anchor at the point of attack, and the power to absorb doubleteams. Make no mistake, Lotulelei also displays impressive short area burst and quickness, with the capability to play on the other side of the line of scrimmage, but he’s more a true blocker-eater inside, employing sound leverage and a strong lower core to keep defenders clean behind him. Limited pass rush ability (no speed rush), and he struggles to tackle outside his frame. Versatile enough to play one technique in a 4-3 undershifted front, but most natural fit is as a two gap zero technique, or nose shade, in position where he can control the flow of traffic around the ball. Will be attractive to NFL teams running multiple or hybrid schemes, and should push to be a top 10 pick come April.