LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen

Rell&Gold · 12-12-2012, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper to OLB?
Jenkins to SS?
Bunkley needs to be more stout?

Turribul, just turribul.

Yes Harper to Olb but In SITUATIONAL/ SUB-PACKAGES which he does now from time to time. Plus he play better closer to the line anyway

Do you think Bunkley play this year was good for a guy brought in to STOP the RUN it was ok and that's clearly not good enough.

Yes Jenkins to SS 1. TO get Isa on the field 2. I rather have him there than Harper. 3. Him and Harper clearly switch safety positions in a couple packages so it wouldnt be to much of a problem. And I said SS or Corner if We were to get Elam.

dizzle88 · 12-12-2012, 06:43 PM

We have to get Quddus on the field at the safety position one way or another

The guy makes plays, have to use him more

hagan714 · 12-12-2012, 06:44 PM

Olb- Cj Mosley
he is one of the player the combine will make or break. he is a player to keep an eye on for sure. game speed worries me in the move to the nfl. but he is football smart and that makes up for a lot.

OLB - Arthur Brown
on the fence about the kid. he is more quick than fast so a move inside might be better for him.

SS- Matt Elam
2/3 round talent much like harper

DE- Damontre Moore
is he coming out? if so he might be gone by the time we pick. i worry about over hyped.

DT- Sylvester Williams - he could be a nice snag in the 2nd but can you light a fire under him and keep him going for 16 games to warrant a first round pick? trade down for him and get more picks? pass there are other players higher on my list at the bottom of the first.

not a bad list at all

Rugby Saint II · 12-12-2012, 06:58 PM

I'm still getting my legs under me. I'm relying on yall's suggestions. I don't really know but a couple of these guys.

Rell&Gold · 12-12-2012, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We have to get Quddus on the field at the safety position one way or another

The guy makes plays, have to use him more

AGREED!

UK_WhoDat · 12-13-2012, 01:28 PM

TBH, I cannot do such an excellent in depth analysis but I appreciate it.

Before all that, the defensive move I want to see is tthe SAints defense getting closer to the opposition.

TheOak · 12-13-2012, 02:28 PM

New Defense that the players are just in the last 3 weeks catching on to.... Some new players to the team this season... No head coach....

Too early to tell and way too many factors to decide anything at this point.

halloween 65 · 12-16-2012, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

New Defense that the players are just in the last 3 weeks catching on to.... Some new players to the team this season... No head coach....

Too early to tell and way too many factors to decide anything at this point.

I respectfully disagee, they have had 3 games short of an entire season to catch on, other teams in the league changes DC's that have been far superior to what I have seen by the sad, pathetic play I have witnessed this season, I don't buy that 1 minute, these are pro-atheletes with a college degree so it's not like a job changed from football which most have played since pee-wee.

Danno · 12-16-2012, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I respectfully disagee, they have had 3 games short of an entire season to catch on, other teams in the league changes DC's that have been far superior to what I have seen by the sad, pathetic play I have witnessed this season, I don't buy that 1 minute, these are pro-atheletes with a college degree so it's not like a job changed from football which most have played since pee-wee.

I kind of agree with this, but I think it goes deeper.

We've made the mistake of forcing a system onto the players we have instead of adjusting the system to fit the players skills.

We have CB's that did well in man now playing a lot of zone.
Spags system asks LB's to cover deeper, which they don't do well.
We have a traditional SS and FS playing mostly left-right.
His scheme demands a lot from the front 4, which isn't exactly our most talented group.

When Atlanta hired Mike Nolan I thought it was a mistake. He's a renowned 3-4 DC coming to a team with 4-3 personnel. Well guess what he does? He adjusts his system to fit the talent he has and for the most part its worked much better than I ever thought it would for them.

UK_WhoDat · 12-16-2012, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

....We've made the mistake of forcing a system onto the players we have instead of adjusting the system to fit the players skills....

Bam!

12-12-2012, 06:35 PM	#11
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen Originally Posted by Danno Harper to OLB? Jenkins to SS? Bunkley needs to be more stout? Turribul, just turribul. Yes Harper to Olb but In SITUATIONAL/ SUB-PACKAGES which he does now from time to time. Plus he play better closer to the line anyway Do you think Bunkley play this year was good for a guy brought in to STOP the RUN it was ok and that's clearly not good enough. Yes Jenkins to SS 1. TO get Isa on the field 2. I rather have him there than Harper. 3. Him and Harper clearly switch safety positions in a couple packages so it wouldnt be to much of a problem. And I said SS or Corner if We were to get Elam.

12-12-2012, 06:43 PM	#12
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen We have to get Quddus on the field at the safety position one way or another The guy makes plays, have to use him more saintfan, Shoe. and Rell&Gold like this.

12-12-2012, 06:44 PM	#13
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen Olb- Cj Mosley he is one of the player the combine will make or break. he is a player to keep an eye on for sure. game speed worries me in the move to the nfl. but he is football smart and that makes up for a lot. OLB - Arthur Brown on the fence about the kid. he is more quick than fast so a move inside might be better for him. SS- Matt Elam 2/3 round talent much like harper DE- Damontre Moore is he coming out? if so he might be gone by the time we pick. i worry about over hyped. DT- Sylvester Williams - he could be a nice snag in the 2nd but can you light a fire under him and keep him going for 16 games to warrant a first round pick? trade down for him and get more picks? pass there are other players higher on my list at the bottom of the first. not a bad list at all Rell&Gold likes this.
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12-12-2012, 06:58 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen I'm still getting my legs under me. I'm relying on yall's suggestions. I don't really know but a couple of these guys. Rell&Gold likes this.

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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen Originally Posted by dizzle88 We have to get Quddus on the field at the safety position one way or another The guy makes plays, have to use him more AGREED!

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12-13-2012, 01:28 PM	#16
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen TBH, I cannot do such an excellent in depth analysis but I appreciate it. Before all that, the defensive move I want to see is tthe SAints defense getting closer to the opposition.

12-13-2012, 02:28 PM	#17
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen New Defense that the players are just in the last 3 weeks catching on to.... Some new players to the team this season... No head coach.... Too early to tell and way too many factors to decide anything at this point.

12-16-2012, 11:35 AM	#18
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen Originally Posted by TheOak New Defense that the players are just in the last 3 weeks catching on to.... Some new players to the team this season... No head coach.... Too early to tell and way too many factors to decide anything at this point. I respectfully disagee, they have had 3 games short of an entire season to catch on, other teams in the league changes DC's that have been far superior to what I have seen by the sad, pathetic play I have witnessed this season, I don't buy that 1 minute, these are pro-atheletes with a college degree so it's not like a job changed from football which most have played since pee-wee.

12-16-2012, 11:45 AM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen Originally Posted by halloween 65 I respectfully disagee, they have had 3 games short of an entire season to catch on, other teams in the league changes DC's that have been far superior to what I have seen by the sad, pathetic play I have witnessed this season, I don't buy that 1 minute, these are pro-atheletes with a college degree so it's not like a job changed from football which most have played since pee-wee. I kind of agree with this, but I think it goes deeper. We've made the mistake of forcing a system onto the players we have instead of adjusting the system to fit the players skills. We have CB's that did well in man now playing a lot of zone. Spags system asks LB's to cover deeper, which they don't do well. We have a traditional SS and FS playing mostly left-right. His scheme demands a lot from the front 4, which isn't exactly our most talented group. When Atlanta hired Mike Nolan I thought it was a mistake. He's a renowned 3-4 DC coming to a team with 4-3 personnel. Well guess what he does? He adjusts his system to fit the talent he has and for the most part its worked much better than I ever thought it would for them. UK_WhoDat likes this.

12-16-2012, 11:53 AM	#20
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: LOOK HERE!!...Defensive moves I want to see happen Originally Posted by Danno ....We've made the mistake of forcing a system onto the players we have instead of adjusting the system to fit the players skills.... Bam!

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