RG messing with a good thing yet again .... wants to expand playoffs

burningmetal · 12-13-2012, 09:25 PM

Another example that he doesn't care about the players. And it would make getting to the playoffs very anti climactic. Does he watch other sports? The NBA and NHL get blasted all the time for having half, or more than half of their league in the playoffs.

QBREES9 · 12-13-2012, 09:40 PM

Someone tell this guy to STOP !!!!

pumpkindriver · 12-13-2012, 10:03 PM

Everything is perfectly set as far as size of the league, number of divisions per conference, number of games, number of playoff teams, playoff format etc. RG can't make it better, only different which in this case would make it worse. I know the owners want more profit and revenue, hell who wouldn't? But 18 game regular season schedules and a slew of Thursday night games isn't the answer. I don't know what the right answer is and apparently neither does anybody else. Hopefully someone can figure out a good way to fatten up the ponderous cash cow known as the NFL without killing it in the process.

SloMotion · 12-14-2012, 07:03 AM

Thursday Night Football, 18 game schedule, increase the number of teams in the playoffs ... it's quantity-over-quality and it's getting tiresome. There's a reason I don't pay much attention to the first few rounds of the NBA playoffs, NCAA tournament, MLB/NHL playoffs and college bowl games ... they're too saturated.

Cramming more games down my throat is not going to make me want more, it makes me want to regurgitate.

Mardigras9 · 12-14-2012, 10:26 AM

Does everybody get a trophy at the end of the season too?

Rugby Saint II · 12-14-2012, 04:10 PM

Roger Godhell.................slowly dismatling the NFL piece by piece.

WhoDat!656 · 12-14-2012, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Bring back the "Runner Up" bowl to replace the Pro Bowl. There was such a thing at one time.

Should be the losers of the Conference Championship games!

SloMotion · 12-15-2012, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Bring back the "Runner Up" bowl to replace the Pro Bowl. There was such a thing at one time.

I did not know that. I was around back then, but under the age of ten, so I'm correct in assuming that while my Dad sat me down & made me watch football with him, I wasn't necessarily that interested until after the age of 8-10yrs.

Great idea, as opposed to playing the ProBowl. At least the game could have some meaning. Doesn't seem like the players/coaches had much interest in it, but Lombardi (as great as he was) tended to be a bit of an S.O.B. all the time anyway,

... come on, we all know it, I'm just sayin' what everybody's thinking,

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia, excerpts from 'Playoff Bowl'

The Playoff Bowl (officially, the Bert Bell Benefit Bowl) was a post-season game for third place in the NFL, played ten times following the 1960-69 seasons. Bell was a co-founder of the Philadelphia Eagles as well as a co-owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers during much of the 1940s. He was the commissioner of the NFL from 1946 until his death in October 1959, which occurred while attending an Eagles-Steelers game ...

- All ten games in the Playoff Bowl series were contested at the Orange Bowl in Miami. The games were played in January, the week following the NFL championship game (and the collegiate Orange Bowl game on New Year's Day). The NFL's Pro Bowl (all-star game) was played the week after the Playoff Bowl ...

- When the merger was completed for the 1970 season, there was discussion about continuing the Playoff Bowl, with the losers of the AFC and NFC Championship Games playing each other during the idle week before the Super Bowl. There were now seven post-season games in the NFL (three for each conference, plus the Super Bowl), and the Pro Bowl all-star game. A "loser's game" was not necessarily attractive for the league, and the Playoff Bowl came to an end ...

- Although the ten Playoff Bowls were official third place playoff games at the time they were played, the NFL currently classifies them as exhibition games, and does not include them in the official results (or statistics) for the post-season ...

- Vince Lombardi detested the Playoff Bowl, coaching in the games following the 1963 and 1964 seasons, after winning NFL titles in 1961 and 1962. To his players, he called it "the '**** Bowl', ...a losers' bowl for losers." This lack of motivation may explain his Packers' rare postseason defeat in the 1964 game (January 1965) to the St. Louis Cardinals. After that loss, he fumed about "a hinky-dink football game, held in a hinky-dink town, played by hinky-dink players. That's all second place is – hinky dink." ...

- All-Pro defensive tackle Roger Brown appeared in five Playoff Bowls, the most by any player, and was on the winning side each time (Detroit Lions, 1960–61–62; Los Angeles Rams, 1967, 1969). He said playing in those seemingly meaningless contests was like having "the worst inferiority complex." He added, "I was in five of them, and to have played in it five in the ten years it was in existence is pitiful." ...

Playoff Bowl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vrillon82 · 12-17-2012, 03:11 AM

They have been needing a playoff expansion for years.

I think the teams went from 28 to 32 in the span of about 20 years where the number of seeds stayed the same, what really IMO screwed up the playoff structure in the last 12 years is when they did the division realignment which went from 3 divisions to 4.

Anyone remember when 8-8 and 9-7 almost guaranteed you get in the playoffs?

Those days have become an after thought to where that Guarantee is now set at 10 wins. Only exception being is terrible divisions like the recent NFC East or NFC West where 7-9 wins teams get in, but it was for winning the division, but perhaps switching over to 4 division conferences is what has allowed Division winners to get in at 7,8, and sometimes 9 wins.

I dont like Roger Goodell, but I have been throwing this idea out there for a while and I think it needs to happen to where we see a playoff expansion consisting of 14-16 compared to the traditional 12.

Seeing recently 2 teams finish 9-7 and go to the SB (with 1 of them winning it) kind of supports the idea that something needs to change.

Another one of the reasons it does need to change is the fact compared to 15+ years ago, more and more teams are getting better, most times you could write a check in the box on some teams that come up on the schedule (Speaking back before Salary Cap era), today, its anyones game.

WillSaints81 · 12-17-2012, 06:25 AM

Of course this would mean the falcons get in if they go 9-7 next year.

12-13-2012, 09:25 PM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: RG messing with a good thing yet again .... wants to expand playoffs Another example that he doesn't care about the players. And it would make getting to the playoffs very anti climactic. Does he watch other sports? The NBA and NHL get blasted all the time for having half, or more than half of their league in the playoffs. neugey likes this.

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12-14-2012, 07:03 AM	#14
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: RG messing with a good thing yet again .... wants to expand playoffs Thursday Night Football, 18 game schedule, increase the number of teams in the playoffs ... it's quantity-over-quality and it's getting tiresome. There's a reason I don't pay much attention to the first few rounds of the NBA playoffs, NCAA tournament, MLB/NHL playoffs and college bowl games ... they're too saturated. Cramming more games down my throat is not going to make me want more, it makes me want to regurgitate.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: RG messing with a good thing yet again .... wants to expand playoffs Originally Posted by vpheughan Bring back the "Runner Up" bowl to replace the Pro Bowl. There was such a thing at one time. Should be the losers of the Conference Championship games!

12-15-2012, 06:19 AM	#18
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: RG messing with a good thing yet again .... wants to expand playoffs Originally Posted by vpheughan Bring back the "Runner Up" bowl to replace the Pro Bowl. There was such a thing at one time. I did not know that. I was around back then, but under the age of ten, so I'm correct in assuming that while my Dad sat me down & made me watch football with him, I wasn't necessarily that interested until after the age of 8-10yrs. Great idea, as opposed to playing the ProBowl. At least the game could have some meaning. Doesn't seem like the players/coaches had much interest in it, but Lombardi (as great as he was) tended to be a bit of an S.O.B. all the time anyway, ... come on, we all know it, I'm just sayin' what everybody's thinking, . Originally Posted by Wikipedia, excerpts from 'Playoff Bowl' The Playoff Bowl (officially, the Bert Bell Benefit Bowl) was a post-season game for third place in the NFL, played ten times following the 1960-69 seasons. Bell was a co-founder of the Philadelphia Eagles as well as a co-owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers during much of the 1940s. He was the commissioner of the NFL from 1946 until his death in October 1959, which occurred while attending an Eagles-Steelers game ... - All ten games in the Playoff Bowl series were contested at the Orange Bowl in Miami. The games were played in January, the week following the NFL championship game (and the collegiate Orange Bowl game on New Year's Day). The NFL's Pro Bowl (all-star game) was played the week after the Playoff Bowl ... - When the merger was completed for the 1970 season, there was discussion about continuing the Playoff Bowl, with the losers of the AFC and NFC Championship Games playing each other during the idle week before the Super Bowl. There were now seven post-season games in the NFL (three for each conference, plus the Super Bowl), and the Pro Bowl all-star game. A "loser's game" was not necessarily attractive for the league, and the Playoff Bowl came to an end ... - Although the ten Playoff Bowls were official third place playoff games at the time they were played, the NFL currently classifies them as exhibition games, and does not include them in the official results (or statistics) for the post-season ... - Vince Lombardi detested the Playoff Bowl, coaching in the games following the 1963 and 1964 seasons, after winning NFL titles in 1961 and 1962. To his players, he called it "the '**** Bowl', ...a losers' bowl for losers." This lack of motivation may explain his Packers' rare postseason defeat in the 1964 game (January 1965) to the St. Louis Cardinals. After that loss, he fumed about "a hinky-dink football game, held in a hinky-dink town, played by hinky-dink players. That's all second place is – hinky dink." ... - All-Pro defensive tackle Roger Brown appeared in five Playoff Bowls, the most by any player, and was on the winning side each time (Detroit Lions, 1960–61–62; Los Angeles Rams, 1967, 1969). He said playing in those seemingly meaningless contests was like having "the worst inferiority complex." He added, "I was in five of them, and to have played in it five in the ten years it was in existence is pitiful." ... Playoff Bowl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

12-17-2012, 03:11 AM	#19
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: RG messing with a good thing yet again .... wants to expand playoffs They have been needing a playoff expansion for years. I think the teams went from 28 to 32 in the span of about 20 years where the number of seeds stayed the same, what really IMO screwed up the playoff structure in the last 12 years is when they did the division realignment which went from 3 divisions to 4. Anyone remember when 8-8 and 9-7 almost guaranteed you get in the playoffs? Those days have become an after thought to where that Guarantee is now set at 10 wins. Only exception being is terrible divisions like the recent NFC East or NFC West where 7-9 wins teams get in, but it was for winning the division, but perhaps switching over to 4 division conferences is what has allowed Division winners to get in at 7,8, and sometimes 9 wins. I dont like Roger Goodell, but I have been throwing this idea out there for a while and I think it needs to happen to where we see a playoff expansion consisting of 14-16 compared to the traditional 12. Seeing recently 2 teams finish 9-7 and go to the SB (with 1 of them winning it) kind of supports the idea that something needs to change. Another one of the reasons it does need to change is the fact compared to 15+ years ago, more and more teams are getting better, most times you could write a check in the box on some teams that come up on the schedule (Speaking back before Salary Cap era), today, its anyones game.
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12-17-2012, 06:25 AM	#20
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: RG messing with a good thing yet again .... wants to expand playoffs Of course this would mean the falcons get in if they go 9-7 next year.

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