frankeefrank

Brees never took a physical with the Saints... Read his book.
He told the Dolphins and the Saints to "trust him" that his shoulder would be ready by the start of the season and only the Saints believed him.
Saban is a liar and a faliure... But he cheats well which is why he is a good college coach.

Jamessr

Yup....
He also said in his first practice his first couple of passing were right in the dirt and fell short. He heard Sean Payton suggest "use you're legs"
After that the passes were on target.
Honestly if you haven't read his book... you're missing out. A very good read.

Shoe.

Spoken like a true LSU fan lol

frankeefrank

Nope.
UCLA fan from the west coast where we see college football for what it is...
An arms race... He who has the gold, wins.
How else would you explain how Oregon is good?

Shoe.

Because Chip Kelly is a good coach?

I'm not an LSU or AL fan, but I did go to a school in the SEC (go dawgs) and I have to admit I've never suspected Saban of cheating or that being why he is a good coach. I think it comes down to the fact that he's a helluva recruiter and he did it with great success at LSU and AL.

If you want to accuse anybody of cheating, you should look elsewhere in the state to the Univ of Aub, they basically got caught paying Scam Newton. That's cheating. What Saban does has to be called at least better-than-average coaching

But I won't argue at all about the liar part, any good ball coach is definitely a liar at some point in his career

frankeefrank

You call it recruiting, others call it rule-breaking.

Trent Richardson's 2011 Yukon With Nice Rims -- Nothing To See Here : Outkick The Coverage

Nothing honest, unintentional about Oregon paying Lyles to deliver talent - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and BCS Rankings

USC/Reggie Bush investigation - College Football - Rivals.com

SPORTSbyBROOKS » Court Docs: AJ McCarron 2011 Yukon - No Plates!

SPORTSbyBROOKS » Rogue Booster’s Photo: “Trent at the new home!”

I'm not saying... I'm just saying...

QBREES9

It doesn't matter he's ours!

Shoe.

Where I'm from there was a saying that goes, "If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin'."

Its obvious by the number of articles you cited that this goes on everywhere, not just the state of Alabama. If Saban is that much of a cheater, then he will likely follow the path of Carroll, Tressel, etc.., i.e., the more success you and your program experience, the more people try to dig up things to discredit/bring you back down to earth

But do you honestly think the only reason that many of the best players go to play for Nick Saban is because of some side benefits they might get while there? Saban is a perennial conduit for NFL caliber players, and they can't pay all of those guys with new cars and new houses like Trent Richardson. TR was one of MANY Bama players to be drafted last year, and its hard for me to believe that they were all driving around in new Yukons with new rims. Top-end HS players/their parents know that if they have the talent/passion/'it' factor, Saban can get them to the big show

To me, the fact of the matter is Saban is a very talented coach, and if he stays at Bama, he'll undoubtedly content for several more national titles in the next few years. With this has to come the recognition that in the hyper-competitive modern college football market, Saban is consistently succeeding AND building great teams. If he wins a couple more NCs, he'll be in the conversations of "who's the best ever" and its just very hard for me to believe that all of his success is a direct reflection of him being a cheater

TheOak

And... Greg Williams tried to stop the bounties....

vpheughan

It's a shame he had to settle for the Saints. Two NFL championship games, one Super Bowl MVP setting all sorts of records. Denying Brees a life of obscurity in south Florida and paying him $100 million to boot!!! The Saints are such bastards!!!! How could they?

He signed with the Saints that's all that matters!!!