The NFL has "jumped the shark"

jeanpierre · 12-18-2012, 10:29 PM

The NFL got one thing right - they have a salary cap that has some substance to it...

...And credit the owner in the biggest market for seeing the bigger picture and greater good, Mr. Wellington Mara...

If more business and government were run that way, even sometimes, the country would be a much better place...

Vrillon82 · 12-19-2012, 07:56 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The NFL got one thing right - they have a salary cap that has some substance to it...

...And credit the owner in the biggest market for seeing the bigger picture and greater good, Mr. Wellington Mara...

If more business and government were run that way, even sometimes, the country would be a much better place...

Since the Salary Cap came in, we saw alot more parity, Falcons, Saints, Bucs, Panthers, Cardinals, Seahawks, and few more teams went to the SB that was thought to never ever make it to that stage.

If things stayed the same, none of those teams would of gotten there.

But it has also created controversy, to where now you wonder is the best teams going into the playoffs?

Their was no arguing who belonged in the playoffs prior to the mid 1990s. But now when you start seeing 9-7 teams go to the SB and 1 of them win it, and the 13,14, and 15 win teams are losing out, you just begin to question the playoff formula. Most of this is due to some very absurd scheduling from season to season.

Take the Falcons this season, does anyone really believe they would even be near 12 wins this season with a more tougher schedule like the Saints have had? More so speaking in where the game is at and what time of the season....

Or if last years Packers that went 15-1 didnt face cupcake teams like the AFC West and hosting the only NFC South team that was dangerous in their opener along with the fact the rest of the NFC North completely collapsed?

Its these type of scheduling from season to season that has made or break an entire NFL season, its become too much of a factor since the Division Realignment which was 4-5 years after the cap was in place, I recall back in the early 90s and all through 80s where their was no team in the NFL who would have a too hard of a schedule or too easy of a schedule, now a days you see schedules like the Falcons...........its like WTF?

SaintsBro · 12-19-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Most of this is due to some very absurd scheduling from season to season.

Take the Falcons this season, does anyone really believe they would even be near 12 wins this season with a more tougher schedule like the Saints have had? More so speaking in where the game is at and what time of the season....

Or if last years Packers that went 15-1 didnt face cupcake teams like the AFC West and hosting the only NFC South team that was dangerous in their opener along with the fact the rest of the NFC North completely collapsed?

Its these type of scheduling from season to season that has made or break an entire NFL season, its become too much of a factor since the Division Realignment which was 4-5 years after the cap was in place, I recall back in the early 90s and all through 80s where their was no team in the NFL who would have a too hard of a schedule or too easy of a schedule, now a days you see schedules like the Falcons...........its like WTF?

I agree 100% with this -- more than the salary cap or changes to the rules, it's the constant jiggery of scheduling and tinkering with teams (ie suspending coaches for a YEAR, thankyouverymuch) that has really affected the game, to manipulate the schedule to give favorable results or influence outcomes. It's little subtle things, like scheduling the Falcons at the Saints after the Falcons get a long bye week, but when the Saints come to the Georgia Dome it's a short week...some teams get their difficult games ALL at home while others have them ALL on the road...some teams get their hard games stacked right at the beginning, from the season opener, others get to open a few cupcake games in a row, as a gift from the scheduling gods, so they can get their act together....I'm not talking about just bias against the Saints, there is a LOT of manipulation in the league schedules, if you really study and look into it...

It's gotten really transparent, how they are jiggering and tinkering with the scheduling to make certain teams have an easier or harder time of things, depending on how they want the outcome to be....all in the interest of ratings or making weak teams do better so owners make more money. Then some of the "good" teams are sacred cows who can do no wrong, while others get given all the bad breaks....been watching this get worse and worse for a long time.

Vrillon82 · 12-19-2012, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

I agree 100% with this -- more than the salary cap or changes to the rules, it's the constant jiggery of scheduling and tinkering with teams (ie suspending coaches for a YEAR, thankyouverymuch) that has really affected the game, to manipulate the schedule to give favorable results or influence outcomes. It's little subtle things, like scheduling the Falcons at the Saints after the Falcons get a long bye week, but when the Saints come to the Georgia Dome it's a short week...some teams get their difficult games ALL at home while others have them ALL on the road...some teams get their hard games stacked right at the beginning, from the season opener, others get to open a few cupcake games in a row, as a gift from the scheduling gods, so they can get their act together....I'm not talking about just bias against the Saints, there is a LOT of manipulation in the league schedules, if you really study and look into it...

It's gotten really transparent, how they are jiggering and tinkering with the scheduling to make certain teams have an easier or harder time of things, depending on how they want the outcome to be....all in the interest of ratings or making weak teams do better so owners make more money. Then some of the "good" teams are sacred cows who can do no wrong, while others get given all the bad breaks....been watching this get worse and worse for a long time.

Yeah its getting beyond ridiculous.

What caught my eye about the Falcons schedule this year, they do not have a back to back Away game, its Away, Home, Away, Home, all through the season, its quite an absurd schedule outside the fact the toughest team they had to face on the road was the division rival Saints, which they lost, they went to Carolina and lost. They got the comfort of hosting Denver, Dallas and NY in their own stadium, most likely they faced all 3 of those teams at the right time. NY is a roller Coaster though.

Most will say.........."well the schedule is made 3-4 years in advance"

But most of the scheduling problems I see is not always necessarily from what we know 3-4 years in advance on what teams we know a team will face the following season, it has been more about the placement of them and what week you get them.

I will use the Falcons as a prime example because their schedule was a joke when I saw it before the season started, but most of the teams that are real mediocre early in the season that is getting hotter later in the season, is the same teams you found in the first few weeks for Atlanta instead of later in the season. You flip their schedule upside down and go from bottom to top and they dont even have 10 wins yet on the season.

The NFL and scheduling gods have enough brain power to know how to set up the schedule that will give certain teams an advantage. That has been pretty apparent since the Division Realignment.

Last year Week 1 @GB. Sorry to say I chalked that up as a loss because of the timing, had this been later in the season, I think we would of see GB and N.O. finish 14-2 on the season.

Its things like this that really pisses me off, they could of Put Chicago in that game and it would be more feasible IMO.

12-18-2012, 10:29 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: The NFL has "jumped the shark" The NFL got one thing right - they have a salary cap that has some substance to it... ...And credit the owner in the biggest market for seeing the bigger picture and greater good, Mr. Wellington Mara... If more business and government were run that way, even sometimes, the country would be a much better place...

12-19-2012, 07:56 AM	#2
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: The NFL has "jumped the shark" Originally Posted by jeanpierre The NFL got one thing right - they have a salary cap that has some substance to it... ...And credit the owner in the biggest market for seeing the bigger picture and greater good, Mr. Wellington Mara... If more business and government were run that way, even sometimes, the country would be a much better place... Since the Salary Cap came in, we saw alot more parity, Falcons, Saints, Bucs, Panthers, Cardinals, Seahawks, and few more teams went to the SB that was thought to never ever make it to that stage. If things stayed the same, none of those teams would of gotten there. But it has also created controversy, to where now you wonder is the best teams going into the playoffs? Their was no arguing who belonged in the playoffs prior to the mid 1990s. But now when you start seeing 9-7 teams go to the SB and 1 of them win it, and the 13,14, and 15 win teams are losing out, you just begin to question the playoff formula. Most of this is due to some very absurd scheduling from season to season. Take the Falcons this season, does anyone really believe they would even be near 12 wins this season with a more tougher schedule like the Saints have had? More so speaking in where the game is at and what time of the season.... Or if last years Packers that went 15-1 didnt face cupcake teams like the AFC West and hosting the only NFC South team that was dangerous in their opener along with the fact the rest of the NFC North completely collapsed? Its these type of scheduling from season to season that has made or break an entire NFL season, its become too much of a factor since the Division Realignment which was 4-5 years after the cap was in place, I recall back in the early 90s and all through 80s where their was no team in the NFL who would have a too hard of a schedule or too easy of a schedule, now a days you see schedules like the Falcons...........its like WTF?
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12-19-2012, 08:59 AM	#3
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The NFL has "jumped the shark" Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Most of this is due to some very absurd scheduling from season to season. Take the Falcons this season, does anyone really believe they would even be near 12 wins this season with a more tougher schedule like the Saints have had? More so speaking in where the game is at and what time of the season.... Or if last years Packers that went 15-1 didnt face cupcake teams like the AFC West and hosting the only NFC South team that was dangerous in their opener along with the fact the rest of the NFC North completely collapsed? Its these type of scheduling from season to season that has made or break an entire NFL season, its become too much of a factor since the Division Realignment which was 4-5 years after the cap was in place, I recall back in the early 90s and all through 80s where their was no team in the NFL who would have a too hard of a schedule or too easy of a schedule, now a days you see schedules like the Falcons...........its like WTF? I agree 100% with this -- more than the salary cap or changes to the rules, it's the constant jiggery of scheduling and tinkering with teams (ie suspending coaches for a YEAR, thankyouverymuch) that has really affected the game, to manipulate the schedule to give favorable results or influence outcomes. It's little subtle things, like scheduling the Falcons at the Saints after the Falcons get a long bye week, but when the Saints come to the Georgia Dome it's a short week...some teams get their difficult games ALL at home while others have them ALL on the road...some teams get their hard games stacked right at the beginning, from the season opener, others get to open a few cupcake games in a row, as a gift from the scheduling gods, so they can get their act together....I'm not talking about just bias against the Saints, there is a LOT of manipulation in the league schedules, if you really study and look into it... It's gotten really transparent, how they are jiggering and tinkering with the scheduling to make certain teams have an easier or harder time of things, depending on how they want the outcome to be....all in the interest of ratings or making weak teams do better so owners make more money. Then some of the "good" teams are sacred cows who can do no wrong, while others get given all the bad breaks....been watching this get worse and worse for a long time.

12-19-2012, 04:11 PM	#4
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: The NFL has "jumped the shark" Originally Posted by SaintsBro I agree 100% with this -- more than the salary cap or changes to the rules, it's the constant jiggery of scheduling and tinkering with teams (ie suspending coaches for a YEAR, thankyouverymuch) that has really affected the game, to manipulate the schedule to give favorable results or influence outcomes. It's little subtle things, like scheduling the Falcons at the Saints after the Falcons get a long bye week, but when the Saints come to the Georgia Dome it's a short week...some teams get their difficult games ALL at home while others have them ALL on the road...some teams get their hard games stacked right at the beginning, from the season opener, others get to open a few cupcake games in a row, as a gift from the scheduling gods, so they can get their act together....I'm not talking about just bias against the Saints, there is a LOT of manipulation in the league schedules, if you really study and look into it... It's gotten really transparent, how they are jiggering and tinkering with the scheduling to make certain teams have an easier or harder time of things, depending on how they want the outcome to be....all in the interest of ratings or making weak teams do better so owners make more money. Then some of the "good" teams are sacred cows who can do no wrong, while others get given all the bad breaks....been watching this get worse and worse for a long time. Yeah its getting beyond ridiculous. What caught my eye about the Falcons schedule this year, they do not have a back to back Away game, its Away, Home, Away, Home, all through the season, its quite an absurd schedule outside the fact the toughest team they had to face on the road was the division rival Saints, which they lost, they went to Carolina and lost. They got the comfort of hosting Denver, Dallas and NY in their own stadium, most likely they faced all 3 of those teams at the right time. NY is a roller Coaster though. Most will say.........."well the schedule is made 3-4 years in advance" But most of the scheduling problems I see is not always necessarily from what we know 3-4 years in advance on what teams we know a team will face the following season, it has been more about the placement of them and what week you get them. I will use the Falcons as a prime example because their schedule was a joke when I saw it before the season started, but most of the teams that are real mediocre early in the season that is getting hotter later in the season, is the same teams you found in the first few weeks for Atlanta instead of later in the season. You flip their schedule upside down and go from bottom to top and they dont even have 10 wins yet on the season. The NFL and scheduling gods have enough brain power to know how to set up the schedule that will give certain teams an advantage. That has been pretty apparent since the Division Realignment. Last year Week 1 @GB. Sorry to say I chalked that up as a loss because of the timing, had this been later in the season, I think we would of see GB and N.O. finish 14-2 on the season. Its things like this that really pisses me off, they could of Put Chicago in that game and it would be more feasible IMO.
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