Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season

12-22-2012, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Start em now and fulltime ... Tired of Watching Harper get Moss'd

Yeah, the 1 or two times that happens every year can be really frustrating huh? /sarcasm.

papz · 12-22-2012, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

That was a great play, but the fact of the matter is, that it was only 1 play. The rest of his year hasn't been very good. Dropped INT's, missed assignments, missed tackles, and speed?? Are you serious? The whole reason Jenkins was moved to Safety is because of his LACK of speed and the fact that we played mostly man to man defense. The recent talk about a possible move back to CB next year is because we now play a lot more zone coverage which does not suit Robinson or Greer, but does suit a slower CB like Jenkins. Not hacking on ya man but Jenkins ran something like a 4.6 or 4.7, 40, just saying. In his first two years Jenkins did make some great plays, not so much the last two.

4.55 at the combine. 4.46-4.51 at his Pro Day.

He's not slow by any means... as we've seen the past two years(running guys down). I've said this in the past... Jenkins plays like a SS on the field. If he's still here when Harper is gone, I think he'll play very well there. It's weird as when he flashed his All Pro potential, he was playing nickel/safety. One would have thought a move to FS full time would have been perfect for him. I'm not ready to give up on him as a FS, but I'd like to see him go back to that role that he had success in. That way Jenkins, Quddus, and Harper can all see time on the field together.

Rugby Saint II · 12-22-2012, 04:33 PM

The young guys are impressive. I look forward to watching them grow.

QBREES9 · 12-22-2012, 06:31 PM

And be Saints for along time.

joker-saint · 12-23-2012, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

That was a great play, but the fact of the matter is, that it was only 1 play. The rest of his year hasn't been very good. Dropped INT's, missed assignments, missed tackles, and speed?? Are you serious? The whole reason Jenkins was moved to Safety is because of his LACK of speed and the fact that we played mostly man to man defense. The recent talk about a possible move back to CB next year is because we now play a lot more zone coverage which does not suit Robinson or Greer, but does suit a slower CB like Jenkins. Not hacking on ya man but Jenkins ran something like a 4.6 or 4.7, 40, just saying. In his first two years Jenkins did make some great plays, not so much the last two.

He had a couple games this year where he showed excellent closing speed. I am not certain why he only does this at certain times, but the speed is there when properly motivated.

joker-saint · 12-23-2012, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by papz

4.55 at the combine. 4.46-4.51 at his Pro Day.

He's not slow by any means... as we've seen the past two years(running guys down). I've said this in the past... Jenkins plays like a SS on the field. If he's still here when Harper is gone, I think he'll play very well there. It's weird as when he flashed his All Pro potential, he was playing nickel/safety. One would have thought a move to FS full time would have been perfect for him. I'm not ready to give up on him as a FS, but I'd like to see him go back to that role that he had success in. That way Jenkins, Quddus, and Harper can all see time on the field together.

Jenkins, Quddus and Harper would be a nasty combination. What if there was a way to work Bush into the rotation as well? All 4 of them are turning out to be excellent players. Imagine of they were all on the field at the same time. I think I have seen this happen on 2nd and 3rd downs at times. And if I recall correctly it either ended up in a pass deflection, an interception, or a dropped pass.

westbankdaze · 12-23-2012, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by LBCutta

Get rid of Harper or bulk him up to play LB. Bush and Quddus at Safety and Jenkins at CB (where he belongs)

Jenkins played CB when he started for us but he sucked so bad at that position. Come to think of it he just sucks period. He got moved to FS where he hasn't done crap at all. I'm all for the new players taking over.

halloween 65 · 12-23-2012, 09:37 AM

Jenkins talked about Quaddus and Bush being depth- he!! he should realise he just lost his starting spot to Quaddus, his head is still in the clouds. Quaddus is our starter, trade Jenkins for some picks...please and invest in a corner that can play corner.

dizzle88 · 12-24-2012, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Jenkins talked about Quaddus and Bush being depth- he!! he should realise he just lost his starting spot to Quaddus, his head is still in the clouds. Quaddus is our starter, trade Jenkins for some picks...please and invest in a corner that can play corner.

Agreed

We draft corners every year and not one of them can play (except elbert mack but we didn't draft him)

We need a dominant CB, I have no idea how Patrick Robinson was ever a first round pick, that was like a "all the best players are gone, just choose anyone scenario"

mighty12 · 12-24-2012, 01:11 PM

The defense has been significantly better without Jenkins, and when Harper is not in there. Cut our losses.

12-22-2012, 04:07 PM	#11
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12-22-2012, 04:17 PM	#12
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season Originally Posted by Marlboro Man That was a great play, but the fact of the matter is, that it was only 1 play. The rest of his year hasn't been very good. Dropped INT's, missed assignments, missed tackles, and speed?? Are you serious? The whole reason Jenkins was moved to Safety is because of his LACK of speed and the fact that we played mostly man to man defense. The recent talk about a possible move back to CB next year is because we now play a lot more zone coverage which does not suit Robinson or Greer, but does suit a slower CB like Jenkins. Not hacking on ya man but Jenkins ran something like a 4.6 or 4.7, 40, just saying. In his first two years Jenkins did make some great plays, not so much the last two. 4.55 at the combine. 4.46-4.51 at his Pro Day. He's not slow by any means... as we've seen the past two years(running guys down). I've said this in the past... Jenkins plays like a SS on the field. If he's still here when Harper is gone, I think he'll play very well there. It's weird as when he flashed his All Pro potential, he was playing nickel/safety. One would have thought a move to FS full time would have been perfect for him. I'm not ready to give up on him as a FS, but I'd like to see him go back to that role that he had success in. That way Jenkins, Quddus, and Harper can all see time on the field together. joker-saint and Shoe. like this.
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12-23-2012, 03:21 AM	#15
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season Originally Posted by Marlboro Man That was a great play, but the fact of the matter is, that it was only 1 play. The rest of his year hasn't been very good. Dropped INT's, missed assignments, missed tackles, and speed?? Are you serious? The whole reason Jenkins was moved to Safety is because of his LACK of speed and the fact that we played mostly man to man defense. The recent talk about a possible move back to CB next year is because we now play a lot more zone coverage which does not suit Robinson or Greer, but does suit a slower CB like Jenkins. Not hacking on ya man but Jenkins ran something like a 4.6 or 4.7, 40, just saying. In his first two years Jenkins did make some great plays, not so much the last two. He had a couple games this year where he showed excellent closing speed. I am not certain why he only does this at certain times, but the speed is there when properly motivated.

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12-23-2012, 03:26 AM	#16
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season Originally Posted by papz 4.55 at the combine. 4.46-4.51 at his Pro Day. He's not slow by any means... as we've seen the past two years(running guys down). I've said this in the past... Jenkins plays like a SS on the field. If he's still here when Harper is gone, I think he'll play very well there. It's weird as when he flashed his All Pro potential, he was playing nickel/safety. One would have thought a move to FS full time would have been perfect for him. I'm not ready to give up on him as a FS, but I'd like to see him go back to that role that he had success in. That way Jenkins, Quddus, and Harper can all see time on the field together. Jenkins, Quddus and Harper would be a nasty combination. What if there was a way to work Bush into the rotation as well? All 4 of them are turning out to be excellent players. Imagine of they were all on the field at the same time. I think I have seen this happen on 2nd and 3rd downs at times. And if I recall correctly it either ended up in a pass deflection, an interception, or a dropped pass.

12-23-2012, 05:59 AM	#17
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	Originally Posted by LBCutta Get rid of Harper or bulk him up to play LB. Bush and Quddus at Safety and Jenkins at CB (where he belongs) Jenkins played CB when he started for us but he sucked so bad at that position. Come to think of it he just sucks period. He got moved to FS where he hasn't done crap at all. I'm all for the new players taking over.
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12-23-2012, 09:37 AM	#18
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season Jenkins talked about Quaddus and Bush being depth- he!! he should realise he just lost his starting spot to Quaddus, his head is still in the clouds. Quaddus is our starter, trade Jenkins for some picks...please and invest in a corner that can play corner. dizzle88 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season Originally Posted by halloween 65 Jenkins talked about Quaddus and Bush being depth- he!! he should realise he just lost his starting spot to Quaddus, his head is still in the clouds. Quaddus is our starter, trade Jenkins for some picks...please and invest in a corner that can play corner. Agreed We draft corners every year and not one of them can play (except elbert mack but we didn't draft him) We need a dominant CB, I have no idea how Patrick Robinson was ever a first round pick, that was like a "all the best players are gone, just choose anyone scenario"

12-24-2012, 01:11 PM	#20
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Young Saints safeties Abdul-Quddus, Bush stepping up late in season The defense has been significantly better without Jenkins, and when Harper is not in there. Cut our losses.

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