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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...mqb/index.html

To the sunshiners: He does have Brooks rated over 3 superbowl QB's.

I kind of agree with Peter King?
 

How does Bulger beat him out........oh yeah because he is on the rams. Over the last few years Bulger has three more turnovers than Brooks with 40% less snaps than Brooks! Clearly a bias

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Sometimes I want to hurt Peter King. Nothing life threatening of course... ;)

In all seriousness, that list is a joke. If Garcia is the 11th best QB in the NFL, then I just don\'t know what to say. And Plummer at number 6? Give me a break!!

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oh christ thats as bad as donovan making the pro bowl last year. yeah its a bias. u know brooks couldnt have made the pro bowl based on his fumbles but what the hell did donovan do? nothing to deserve a pro bowl selection. brooks is a much better qb then donovan. but yet everybody puts him at the top. i dont get it. brooks had 2 reeivers hurt last year n still threw for 3500 yards. its all ridiculous. the saints never get any exposure or respect. we\'ll see

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OK, here\'s mine for what it\'s worth:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. McNair
4. Green
5. Favre
6. Culpepper
7. Pennington
8. Vick
9. Hasselback
10. Garcia
11. Brook\'s
12. McNabb
13. Delhomme
14. Gannon
15. Carr
16. Leftwich
17. Johnson
18. Bledsoe
19. Rattay
20. Brunell
21. Harrington
22. Bulger
23. Maddox
24. Testaverde
25. Boller
26. Collins
27. Kitna
28. Carter
29. Ramsey
30. Plummer

This list is based on my opinion, past performance and future outlook.

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Username: BrooksMustGo

Hmmm, never in a million years would I have guessed that.

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I don\'t agree with King... but this is disturbing:

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It\'s disturbing if you take it at face value. But when you really look at things, it\'s nothing like what Mr. King suggests

On Brooks interceptions:

2001 - 22 interceptions
2002 - 15 interceptions
2003 - 8 interceptions

What the hell more can the man do? He\'s improved EVERY year and it now tops in the league for least interceptions allowed. In the famous words of gatorman -- NUFF SAID!!

Now, he needs to cut down on the fumbling. That\'s all Mr. King needed to say. I can make the Pope sound like a pimp if I want to. :P

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OK, this one I gotta hear. Please elaborate, cause that\'s a funny analogy.

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As bad as this sounds,that\'s one I need to hear too!

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OK, I\'ll post my: \"The Pope is a pimp\" write up tonight. That\'ll be a tough one but I think I can pull it off.

Have you ever noticed that pimp-moblie the Pope rides around in? ;)

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Good to see you\'ve picked up on it. I was worried that my user name was too subtle... ;)

At any rate, I agree with King that Brooks is a mediocre QB. I don\'t see him as an elite player. He hasn\'t proven that he is a winner, kind of reminds me of Jim Everett, outstanding one week, cover-your-eyes awful the next.

I\'m not sure that I\'d rate Plummer as a #6 talent, but you have got to admit that his entire career at Arizona was him playing without a running game, without consistently good recievers and with him constantly playing from behind.

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Plummer has\'nt done anything since college and he really was\'nt spectacular then either. He has alot of weapons in Denver and has\'nt show anything the last couple of years. If there were more than 30 on the list, he would always be at the bottom of mine.

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I\'m going to quibble on the weapons in Denver.

Smith(Not Smart ((I\'m so embarrassed by this goof)) is done.
McCaffery was pretty good in the slot, but he has needed to hang it up since he broke his leg.
Lelie makes Stallworth look like an over-achiever. (Incidentally we have to determine whether Lelie is a draft bust before we even think about labeling Donte like that)
Sharp was the best receiving threat Plummer had last year.

Again, not saying I\'d put Plummer at #6, but the guy is better than his teams have let him show. I\'d probably put Plummer in the top half of QBs in the league until he\'s actually shown something. In that regard, he\'s not unlike Brooks, except he can throw a touch pass.

[Edited on 25/8/2004 by BrooksMustGo]

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And who are all these weapons Brooks has had to throw to? Joe Horn was very good for a couple of years. But what other great weapons has Brooks had to throw to?

Pathon? Hmm.... He\'s an average receiver.

Stallworth? Hmm.... He hasn\'t been healthy enough to stay on the field.

Conwell? Hmm.. He hasn\'t lived up to his hype.

Maybe all these receivers live up to the \"hype\" this year, but they\'ve been one of the BIG problems.

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Are you talking about Rod Smith?

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Gator, come on dude. I have made no prediction for a 12-4 season this year. If fact, I\'ve said this team could finish anywhere from 8-8 to 11-5.

What do I have to do to convice you I\'m NOT sold on this Saints\' team, gator?

Call me out on what you consider to be \"sunshine\" posts, But don\'t just make stuff up. You are battling yourself, gator, \'cause I\'ve said no such thing.

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Don\'t know what point you\'re trying to make since I said in this VERY thread that Brooks\' fumbles hurt us.

But you just set yourself up for a rude awakening with this post gator.

Check our your FAVORITE boy Delhomme !!

Jake Delhomme interceptions - 19
J. Delhomme fumbles lost ----- 6

Total turnovers by Jake Delhomme - 24

Now, I said Brooks fumbles hurt us. But how did the Panthers get to the super bowl when Jake Delhomme turned the ball over 24 times?

Either you can answer that, or we can just make small talk?

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Gator --

Are you trying to tell me I need to start a poll to find out how I feel about this Saints\' team?

Look gator... When you log on here you go directly after my posts. That\'s cool with me. But come up with a good arguement about the topic at hand.

I think the \"logic\" behind my reply to your post is pretty clear and relevant.

Man, you can say what ya want, but I a\'int taking it to a peronal level with you. Not going there.

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It\'s ok BMG, but you need to post something quick look at your post total!!! Not a good sign.

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gator -

1. I don\'t want to be a mod.

2. I can see through you like a window.

3. This is silly.

Man, I\'m not here to preach to you. What you do or say doesn\'t affect me. At all. What you need to understand is I do not wish to participate in these conversations. It seems to me that you get too upset at times and go places that are \"questionable.\"

Maybe you don\'t get that upset, but that\'s the way it APPEARS to me. And the only way to fight fire is with fire. I can\'t go there. I know what happens when I go there. Now, I don\'t know what happens to YOU. But I know what happens to ME.
Nothing good can come of this.

Besides, I\'m here to talk about football. That other stuff was fun back then, but it\'s not anymore for me. Now, I can take a joke as well as the next guy.

But, it\'s become a little much.

Do I sound like I\'m whining? Because I feel like I sound like I\'m whining. For the record, I\'m not whining. LMAO!!

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Really ????

Tell me more ..... ;)

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isn\'t 19 + 6= 25?

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I ran out of fingers and toes. ;)

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A ghost? Can\'t have a strong opinion?

Yeah, well it was ME that predicted 12-4. Yup, I said it. 12 and 4 baby.

As far as \"ghosting\" goes, I\'m still waitin\' on that first conspiracy theory of the year 08.

:P

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...and oh by the way, Peter King is an idiot. His column is entertaining, but he\'s still an idiot.

I\'ll try and remember to post at least one strong opinion a day. :P

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Stop the presses, I\'m running to AB\'s defense. First, I post a positive review of the GB game, then I run to AB\'s defense. Someone, quick, get a toxicology report on me b/c Billy must have injected me with some sunshine serum.

Funny that you would bring up Everett, BMG. Doesn\'t he hold just about every Saints passing record, except for the few AB has broken? I\'m not sure what more you want then that. Afterall, we ARE considering these guys as INDIVIDUALS, right? Winning is a team effort no?

No question, Brooks has had his problems. No question, he got paid before he deserved it. No question that he has been inconsistent and needs to step up and prove himself (preferably this year). All that said, I have to agree with Billy. Listen, I\'ve been down on the guy more than just about anyone here. He has matured VERY slowly and he has COST the Saints games. All that said, he is an ABOVE AVERAGE talent. I would agree, that right now, it is hard to say that he is top 10. His numbers in TDs and Yards have been there. Last year, his efficiency improved greatly. This year, if he is consistent and can act at all like a leader, he\'ll be going to the Pro Bowl. That\'s my two cents.

[Edited on 25/8/2004 by WhoDat]

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Talented yes in the mold of Everett , and has the same burning history . Fast start and nothing but potential afterwards .Jumpin Jimmy sure had a nice smile after he threw a pick too .....

Gator saying 08 wears a skirt in here ???

Saintfan I do not know what to tell you on this matter of a conspiracy theory , it looks like Hasbeen has effectively surrounded Fumbalaya Brooks with enough sad competition to actually make Brooks look good ....

Bouman is a bust and the jury is still out on J.T. , if Brooks goes down for any length of time the season could be over .......All the potentially effective back ups the Saints had are starting for play off teams ..... ;)



[Edited on 26/8/2004 by saintz08]

I kind of agree with Peter King?
 

Your powers are weak old man. Are you no longer the master...of the conspiracy theory I mean? I\'m disappointed in you 08 (of course I have always been). I figure by game 3 you\'ll have a good and gooey \"Oliver Stone-esk\" theory on how Haz is holdin\' J.T. Back. Don\'t give up on yourself 08. There is still time. ;)

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Had good material to work with , One minute Hasbeen is saying Jake aint good enough to play for an injured Brooks and the next minute Jake is playing in the Super Bowl .The copy cat coach does not have too many positions up for grabs this year .Those that do not smoke themselves from the roster spot will most likely pull up lame and allow the back ups on the field .

[Edited on 26/8/2004 by saintz08]