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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...mqb/index.html OK. Here we go. You should have one through 15, but in case you don't, here's that, plus 16 through 30: 1. Manning 2. Brady 3. Steve McNair 4. Brett Favre 5. Green 6. Plummer 7. Culpepper 8. Pennington ...

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Old 08-23-2004, 09:31 PM   #1
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...mqb/index.html

OK. Here we go. You should have one through 15, but in case you don't, here's that, plus 16 through 30:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Steve McNair
4. Brett Favre
5. Green
6. Plummer
7. Culpepper
8. Pennington
9. McNabb
10. Mike Vick
11. Garcia
12. Matt Hasselbeck
13. Marc Bulger
14. Brad Johnson
15. Mark Brunell
16. Delhomme
17. Aaron Brooks
18. Rich Gannon
19. Kerry Collins
20. Jon Kitna
21. Patrick Ramsey
22. Drew Bledsoe
23. David Carr
24. Tommy Maddox
25. Byron Leftwich
26. Tim Rattay
27. Vinny Testaverde
28. Quincy Carter
29. Kyle Boller
30. Joey Harrington

I notice Gannon is feeling A-OK, throwing with no shoulder pain after his 2003 shoulder surgery. I figure he and Delhomme ought to be moving up once October rolls around.

AARON BROOKS HASN'T EARNED HIS WAY INTO TOP FIFTEENNESS. From John of New Orleans: "There is no way you can convince me that Jake Plummer, Jeff Garcia, Mark Bulger, and Mark Brunell at the very least should be on a top 15 list that does not include Aaron Brooks. That Brooks is not listed makes even less sense to me when you claim that your rankings are based on resume and bright future. Brooks' statistics compare very well in the last three seasons with your top five.''

Well, I'm not sure they do, which is why he's not in the top 15. Though Brooks had his best season last year, I'm still not a total Brooks believer yet. The top 14 guys on my list have quarterbacked in the playoffs at some point in the past three years; Brooks has not. My top five guys are all winners; Brooks is 24-24 since 2001. And let's see if he can take care of the ball a little better than in the last three years when, in 48 games, he's thrown 45 interceptions and fumbled 38 times.
To the sunshiners: He does have Brooks rated over 3 superbowl QB's.
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:38 PM   #2
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How does Bulger beat him out........oh yeah because he is on the rams. Over the last few years Bulger has three more turnovers than Brooks with 40% less snaps than Brooks! Clearly a bias
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:45 PM   #3
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Sometimes I want to hurt Peter King. Nothing life threatening of course...

In all seriousness, that list is a joke. If Garcia is the 11th best QB in the NFL, then I just don\'t know what to say. And Plummer at number 6? Give me a break!!
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:46 PM   #4
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oh christ thats as bad as donovan making the pro bowl last year. yeah its a bias. u know brooks couldnt have made the pro bowl based on his fumbles but what the hell did donovan do? nothing to deserve a pro bowl selection. brooks is a much better qb then donovan. but yet everybody puts him at the top. i dont get it. brooks had 2 reeivers hurt last year n still threw for 3500 yards. its all ridiculous. the saints never get any exposure or respect. we\'ll see
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Old 08-23-2004, 10:52 PM   #5
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OK, here\'s mine for what it\'s worth:

1. Manning
2. Brady
3. McNair
4. Green
5. Favre
6. Culpepper
7. Pennington
8. Vick
9. Hasselback
10. Garcia
11. Brook\'s
12. McNabb
13. Delhomme
14. Gannon
15. Carr
16. Leftwich
17. Johnson
18. Bledsoe
19. Rattay
20. Brunell
21. Harrington
22. Bulger
23. Maddox
24. Testaverde
25. Boller
26. Collins
27. Kitna
28. Carter
29. Ramsey
30. Plummer

This list is based on my opinion, past performance and future outlook.
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Old 08-24-2004, 07:31 AM   #6
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I kind of agree with Peter King
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Hmmm, never in a million years would I have guessed that.
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Old 08-24-2004, 09:39 AM   #7
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I don\'t agree with King... but this is disturbing:

in 48 games, he\'s thrown 45 interceptions and fumbled 38 times.
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I don\'t agree with King... but this is disturbing:

in 48 games, he\'s thrown 45 interceptions and fumbled 38 times.

It\'s disturbing if you take it at face value. But when you really look at things, it\'s nothing like what Mr. King suggests

On Brooks interceptions:

2001 - 22 interceptions
2002 - 15 interceptions
2003 - 8 interceptions

What the hell more can the man do? He\'s improved EVERY year and it now tops in the league for least interceptions allowed. In the famous words of gatorman -- NUFF SAID!!

Now, he needs to cut down on the fumbling. That\'s all Mr. King needed to say. I can make the Pope sound like a pimp if I want to. :P
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Old 08-24-2004, 10:37 AM   #9
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I can make the Pope sound like a pimp if I want to.
OK, this one I gotta hear. Please elaborate, cause that\'s a funny analogy.
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Old 08-24-2004, 02:33 PM   #10
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As bad as this sounds,that\'s one I need to hear too!
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