Saints' Next DE/DT

TheOak · 01-03-2013, 08:43 AM

My gut tells me Cadet may bring good value.

Danno · 01-03-2013, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

My gut tells me Cadet may bring good value.

With our cap problems he's a perfect back-up special teamer. I think most teams already have a Cadet somewhere on their roster.

TheOak · 01-03-2013, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

With our cap problems he's a perfect back-up special teamer. I think most teams already have a Cadet somewhere on their roster.

Possibly. How deep is Cadet on the return list?

Behind Sproles, Moore,.... We didn't see much of him until late in the season. Possibly end of season showcase for trade.

While ivory does have health issues he is nearly a guaranteed first down on short yardage.

Heh LOL. If we ever decide to run on short yardage .

hagan714 · 01-03-2013, 07:31 PM

i would like to see the saints work Cadet into the passing game as a wr also. that way he can add depth to the wr corp and make that one less position to worry about, the pats seem to do all the time.
it would free up a roster spot for an additional defensive player

hagan714 · 01-03-2013, 07:39 PM

Corey Lemonier yet another reason not to fear moving down in the draft. but imo the DE are all a reach in round 1. this is not a deep class of elite DE. most of these DE are top of the second round talents. all come with "?".

So scouting them up is key. lets hope another Cam Jordan type of DE fall into our laps.

Alex Okafor keeps jumping to the top of my list for some reason as the player to trade down and target. i need the combine numbers to help me understand why i guess. i just like his style of play i guess

papz · 01-03-2013, 07:58 PM

I'm not interested in another Cam Jordan on our team. This team lacks an elite pass rusher. While a Cam Jordan can rush the passer, having two of them won't solve that lack of pressure we so dearly lack.

There are plenty of quality pass rushing DE prospects in this draft... it's pretty deep actually. We'll know whether or not they're "elite" until after their workouts... when teams start drooling over their combine numbers.

hagan714 · 01-03-2013, 08:05 PM

i was just saying he fell into our lap and that worked out pretty darn good

Danno · 01-03-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I'm not interested in another Cam Jordan on our team. This team lacks an elite pass rusher. While a Cam Jordan can rush the passer, having two of them won't solve that lack of pressure we so dearly lack.

There are plenty of quality pass rushing DE prospects in this draft... it's pretty deep actually. We'll know whether or not they're "elite" until after their workouts... when teams start drooling over their combine numbers.

Yep, another 3-4 DE or a 4-3 LDE isn't the answer. We need a RDE who plays the run decent but is a ferocious pass rusher.

Cam Jordan is a solid LDE. We need that Freeny type on the right.

Now if we shift to a 3-4, then another Cam Jordan type is fine, although Hicks can fill that role just fine.

papz · 01-03-2013, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i was just saying he fell into our lap and that worked out pretty darn good

I saw a mock draft this afternoon that had Mingo fall to 15. I think I understand what you were trying to say now. Someone of high value falling into our laps. Something like would definitely be lovely.

Now if we shift to a 3-4, then another Cam Jordan type is fine, although Hicks can fill that role just fine.

I could definitely dig a Hicks/Bunkley/Jordan front 3. We might finally get some sort of return on Bunkley.

01-03-2013, 08:45 AM	#22
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Saints' Next DE/DT Originally Posted by TheOak My gut tells me Cadet may bring good value. With our cap problems he's a perfect back-up special teamer. I think most teams already have a Cadet somewhere on their roster.

01-03-2013, 08:50 AM	#23
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by Danno With our cap problems he's a perfect back-up special teamer. I think most teams already have a Cadet somewhere on their roster. Possibly. How deep is Cadet on the return list? Behind Sproles, Moore,.... We didn't see much of him until late in the season. Possibly end of season showcase for trade. While ivory does have health issues he is nearly a guaranteed first down on short yardage. Heh LOL. If we ever decide to run on short yardage .

01-03-2013, 07:31 PM	#24
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints' Next DE/DT i would like to see the saints work Cadet into the passing game as a wr also. that way he can add depth to the wr corp and make that one less position to worry about, the pats seem to do all the time. it would free up a roster spot for an additional defensive player

01-03-2013, 07:39 PM	#25
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints' Next DE/DT Corey Lemonier yet another reason not to fear moving down in the draft. but imo the DE are all a reach in round 1. this is not a deep class of elite DE. most of these DE are top of the second round talents. all come with "?". So scouting them up is key. lets hope another Cam Jordan type of DE fall into our laps. Alex Okafor keeps jumping to the top of my list for some reason as the player to trade down and target. i need the combine numbers to help me understand why i guess. i just like his style of play i guess
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01-03-2013, 07:58 PM	#26
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: Saints' Next DE/DT I'm not interested in another Cam Jordan on our team. This team lacks an elite pass rusher. While a Cam Jordan can rush the passer, having two of them won't solve that lack of pressure we so dearly lack. There are plenty of quality pass rushing DE prospects in this draft... it's pretty deep actually. We'll know whether or not they're "elite" until after their workouts... when teams start drooling over their combine numbers. Danno likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	My gut tells me Cadet may bring good value.

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01-03-2013, 08:05 PM	#27
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints' Next DE/DT i was just saying he fell into our lap and that worked out pretty darn good

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	Re: Saints' Next DE/DT Originally Posted by hagan714 i was just saying he fell into our lap and that worked out pretty darn good I saw a mock draft this afternoon that had Mingo fall to 15. I think I understand what you were trying to say now. Someone of high value falling into our laps. Something like would definitely be lovely. Now if we shift to a 3-4, then another Cam Jordan type is fine, although Hicks can fill that role just fine. I could definitely dig a Hicks/Bunkley/Jordan front 3. We might finally get some sort of return on Bunkley.

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