Spags: I hope hes canned

lee909 · 01-02-2013, 02:59 AM

He should get the year to sort things out.
He deserves the chance to get some players he wants in the draft.
The players and team would have been pretty lost last offseason.No head coach,LB coach taking control of the team then disappearing for 6 weeks.
He could not gameplan with Smith or Vilma as he never knew when he could use them.No pass rush,a secondary that couldnt cover a gandma.

Nobody performed this year and i wouldnt like to be any of them players when coach Payton walks through that door.Going to be some serious words thrown dished out.

I would like some much needed consistency through this year.
If its poor again this year then Payton and Loomis will make the changes needed.

I wouldnt be against Lovie Smith but
1) He wil get job offers
2)Even if he took the job we would be looking for a new DC next year,when he took another job.

Vrillon82 · 01-02-2013, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Haslett is like Romeo Carnell and Norv Turner, as cordinators they look like God's gift to football yet they suck as head coaches. Not everyone can be Sean Payton

The thing about Haslett is, everyone saw this during his tenure here in New Orleans is that he can be a decent coach, but his staff on the other hand sucks, we would of been in the playoffs for years under Haslett if he would of got rid of the excess baggage known as Rick Venturi.

SmashMouth · 01-02-2013, 09:18 AM

Looks like the Times Pic agrees with you...

New Orleans Saints player: Steve Spagnuolo should be fired as defensive coordinator | NOLA.com

vpheughan · 01-02-2013, 09:40 AM

Haslett had Mike McCarthy as his OC. The team was decent under him. He made Delhome the QB he was. Haslett couldn't judge talent why else would he stay with Smiley so long!

TheOak · 01-02-2013, 09:44 AM

To say Spags needs to go after this season is to admit that you are ignoring everything that has happened to this team in the last 6 months.

It also means you want to start 2013 having a defense learning a brand new coach and scheme the first 4-6 games again.

TheOak · 01-02-2013, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Looks like the Times Pic agrees with you...

New Orleans Saints player: Steve Spagnuolo should be fired as defensive coordinator | NOLA.com

Read the title of the article and the article... The TP does not agree, "an unnamed player" agrees.

NOS2SB · 01-02-2013, 10:04 AM

Lovie Smith for DC.

Belair57 · 01-02-2013, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

To say Spags needs to go after this season is to admit that you are ignoring everything that has happened to this team in the last 6 months.

It also means you want to start 2013 having a defense learning a brand new coach and scheme the first 4-6 games again.

so if the offseason drama screwed up this def why did it not affect our offense? Its spags, and now im reading players dont like the guy, its becoming even more evident what happened this year

TheOak · 01-02-2013, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Belair57

so if the offseason drama screwed up this def why did it not affect our offense? Its spags, and now im reading players dont like the guy, its becoming even more evident what happened this year

Not sure what "offseason" drama you speak of, it was nearly all season... And it did effect our offense.

I suppose your also going to tell me that on a per player basis our defense is as equally talented as our offense?

NuNu318 · 01-02-2013, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Belair57

so if the offseason drama screwed up this def why did it not affect our offense? Its spags, and now im reading players dont like the guy, its becoming even more evident what happened this year

I'm sorry but I'm not taking the word of a unnamed player who's most likely won't be here next year anyway. I'm not gonna throw Spags under a bus because he has been stuck with a bunch of players that are low on IQ and talent. They were Low on those same things last year & just as bad but Brees & company put up 40 a game to cover that up. Its easy to look like you're competent when you up my at least 2 TDs everygame. It looks atrocious when the offense starts to sputter without a HC and you get exposed for the lack of talent you have.

Blame the scouts....blame Loomis for being for offensive oriented. Blaming a guy who hasn't even been here an entire 12months is a cop out.

01-02-2013, 02:59 AM	#61
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned He should get the year to sort things out. He deserves the chance to get some players he wants in the draft. The players and team would have been pretty lost last offseason.No head coach,LB coach taking control of the team then disappearing for 6 weeks. He could not gameplan with Smith or Vilma as he never knew when he could use them.No pass rush,a secondary that couldnt cover a gandma. Nobody performed this year and i wouldnt like to be any of them players when coach Payton walks through that door.Going to be some serious words thrown dished out. I would like some much needed consistency through this year. If its poor again this year then Payton and Loomis will make the changes needed. I wouldnt be against Lovie Smith but 1) He wil get job offers 2)Even if he took the job we would be looking for a new DC next year,when he took another job.
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01-02-2013, 05:16 AM	#62
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Haslett is like Romeo Carnell and Norv Turner, as cordinators they look like God's gift to football yet they suck as head coaches. Not everyone can be Sean Payton The thing about Haslett is, everyone saw this during his tenure here in New Orleans is that he can be a decent coach, but his staff on the other hand sucks, we would of been in the playoffs for years under Haslett if he would of got rid of the excess baggage known as Rick Venturi.
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01-02-2013, 09:18 AM	#63
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned Looks like the Times Pic agrees with you... New Orleans Saints player: Steve Spagnuolo should be fired as defensive coordinator \| NOLA.com

01-02-2013, 09:40 AM	#64
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned Haslett had Mike McCarthy as his OC. The team was decent under him. He made Delhome the QB he was. Haslett couldn't judge talent why else would he stay with Smiley so long!
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01-02-2013, 09:44 AM	#65
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned To say Spags needs to go after this season is to admit that you are ignoring everything that has happened to this team in the last 6 months. It also means you want to start 2013 having a defense learning a brand new coach and scheme the first 4-6 games again.

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01-02-2013, 09:46 AM	#66
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned Originally Posted by SmashMouth Looks like the Times Pic agrees with you... New Orleans Saints player: Steve Spagnuolo should be fired as defensive coordinator \| NOLA.com Read the title of the article and the article... The TP does not agree, "an unnamed player" agrees.

01-02-2013, 10:04 AM	#67
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Belair57 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 848	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned Originally Posted by TheOak To say Spags needs to go after this season is to admit that you are ignoring everything that has happened to this team in the last 6 months. It also means you want to start 2013 having a defense learning a brand new coach and scheme the first 4-6 games again. so if the offseason drama screwed up this def why did it not affect our offense? Its spags, and now im reading players dont like the guy, its becoming even more evident what happened this year
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01-02-2013, 11:19 AM	#69
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by Belair57 so if the offseason drama screwed up this def why did it not affect our offense? Its spags, and now im reading players dont like the guy, its becoming even more evident what happened this year Not sure what "offseason" drama you speak of, it was nearly all season... And it did effect our offense. I suppose your also going to tell me that on a per player basis our defense is as equally talented as our offense? SloMotion likes this.

01-02-2013, 11:26 AM	#70
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: Spags: I hope hes canned Originally Posted by Belair57 so if the offseason drama screwed up this def why did it not affect our offense? Its spags, and now im reading players dont like the guy, its becoming even more evident what happened this year I'm sorry but I'm not taking the word of a unnamed player who's most likely won't be here next year anyway. I'm not gonna throw Spags under a bus because he has been stuck with a bunch of players that are low on IQ and talent. They were Low on those same things last year & just as bad but Brees & company put up 40 a game to cover that up. Its easy to look like you're competent when you up my at least 2 TDs everygame. It looks atrocious when the offense starts to sputter without a HC and you get exposed for the lack of talent you have. Blame the scouts....blame Loomis for being for offensive oriented. Blaming a guy who hasn't even been here an entire 12months is a cop out.

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