Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT?

Danno · 08-26-2004, 04:52 PM

I probably would have guessed 8-8 under those circumstances.

A moment of silence please.

I\'ve been a member of BnG for a LONG time, and this is the first time I\'ve seen the coulda, woulda, shoulda defense. Given its popularity amongst the Saints, I\'m surprised this is the first time it ever came up. I\'m also disappointed in Tweek for pulling that one out. Never thought you\'d be the guy to pull a Mora... tisk, tisk. Can I get a PLAYOFFS rant our of you?

I\'m not sure what you mean.
Are you telling me you knew that last year that we\'d lose our best defensive player halfway through the 1st game, lose a starting LB for 9 games, suffer the 2nd most injuries in NFL history, have two losses NFL officials apologized for causing, play several games with about half our starters out, have a solid special teams unit completely fold?

Is that why you predicted 9-7?

Are you telling me knowing all those things would happen wouldn\'t sway your prediction a couple games?

Yeah....right crawfish, try that one again.

That fuzzy Mora reference may work on some folks, but I ain\'t buying it and I doubt you really do either.

GumboBC · 08-26-2004, 05:01 PM

WhoDat --

Why do you think it was so UNrealistc to think the Saints could have gone 12-4 or even 13-3?

Soon as you answer that. Answer this one please:

What was your prediction for the Bucs and how many games were you off?

Weren\'t the Bucs 7-9 last year? Can you explain to me how the Bucs finished 7-9?

Oh, and what were your other predictions for the rest of the teams in the NFL?

Anyone can look like a genius when only PART of the information is avalible.

Did you get the Falcons right?

Bucs?

Panthers?

Cowboys?

Patriots at 14-2. You predicited that one............ right?

Buffalo with your boy Taeko Spikes?

Pennington and the J-E-T-S ... JETS JETS JETS????

WHO YOU TRYIN\' TO FOOL WHODAT?

WhoDat say they gonna fool dem sunshiners. WhoDat?

ScottyRo · 08-26-2004, 07:34 PM

Why do you think it was so UNrealistc to think the Saints could have gone 12-4 or even 13-3?

Take all the reasons you thought 12-4 and apply them as if they didn\'t happen as well as you thought. 8-8 or 9-7.

As far as all the injuries and bad calls are concerned, you should realize that this is the Saints and you should get used to this. Bad things are going to happen. It\'s just part of the fun.

GumboBC · 08-26-2004, 08:02 PM

So, everyone wants to be proven right about last year, huh?

Well, I\'ve already said I was wrong about the team last year. In fact, I started a new thread to admit just that. But some guys still want to point out they were right in saying the Saints were terrible.

OK, you guys got your props. To all the guys who predicted the Saints to finish 8-8... You guys are geniuses. For those of us who thought the Saints were a playoff team... well.... we aren\'t geniuses.

Now what? Do we continue to bring up who was right or wrong about everything last year? Not me. Leave me out. Not this year.

It\'s one thing to occasionally bring it up .. It\'s another thing to beat it in the ground.

Too many other things to talk about. Like this upcoming season.

I\'m well aware that the Saints only have one playoff win in their history. I\'m well aware of the Dec. collapses. I saw John Carney miss the extra point. I\'ve lived through it all !!

Someone wants to tell me the Saints still suck? That\'s fine. I welcome that. Just back it up with something. Something other than I told you last year they sucked and they did. Who cares?!?!

For those who haven\'t heard me say it: I was WRONG about the Saints last year.

Does that mean my opinions are wrong about the Saints this year? Does it make anyone any more credible because they predicted a losing record for the Saints last year?

I said all of this for ONE reason. If you are one of those guys who have nothing better to do than just stir things up, then leave me out of it.

If you\'re not one of those guys, then disregard this post.

ScottyRo · 08-26-2004, 08:14 PM

It\'s one thing to occasionally bring it up .. It\'s another thing to beat it in the ground.

How many times could this have been said about your pro-Brooks posts? (Some of which I supported)

100?

500?

BlackandBlue · 08-26-2004, 08:25 PM

For those of us who thought the Saints were a playoff team... well.... we aren\'t geniuses.

True dat :P
Had the Saints getting a wild card birth with a 10-6 record. :P
But, I did have the Panthers winning it at 11-5

Hey Cherry, where\'s my props?

GumboBC · 08-26-2004, 08:27 PM

It\'s one thing to occasionally bring it up .. It\'s another thing to beat it in the ground.

How many times could this have been said about your pro-Brooks posts? (Some of which I supported)

100?

500?

You miss the point, grasshopper. That was last year. I\'m moving on. How \'bout you?

ScottyRo · 08-26-2004, 08:36 PM

I\'m sorry. You\'ll need to send me a list of those 2004 Rules. Thanks :P

CheramieIII · 08-27-2004, 02:21 AM

Hey BB, Here\'s your PROP\'S.

WhoDat · 08-27-2004, 09:05 AM

Tweeky, predictions are educated guesses about the end result. In other words how you think the team will finish the season, NOT HOW DID THEY GET THERE ALONG THE WAY. The injuires and other BS are neither here nor there. Whodat and myself didn\'t think the team would go better than 9-7. And you know what, however they ended up with an 8-8 record doesn\'t matter. Point is they did and the 12-4 guys were WAY OFF ABOUT THIS TEAM. And that is the reason the 12-4 guys are catching flack is because they were 4 games. WAY OFF.

Couldn\'t have said it better myself Gator. Did I know all that crap would happen? No - but I did know two things, 1) the Saints were a team with above average talent and below average performance. 2)They have a history of that and it has been more prominent in the Haslett era. I didn\'t have to know HOW they would find a way to acheive mediocrity, I simply knew that they WOULD.

As for my other predictions, Billy, I was more right than I was wrong. I was right about Carolina. I did say NE would be a good team. Certainly, I was wrong about Buffalo and the Bucs. But all that is secondary... we come to this board to focus on the Saints, not other NFL teams. My predictions about the SAINTS were mostly right. You know that - you posted a huge thread at the end of last season abotu how right I was. Shall I repost it for you? To refresh your memory I think you said something like - Whodat was right about the defense not getting much better, right about the offense faltering, right about the coaching staff, right about special teams and M Lewis not being as good, and right about this team\'s performance. I\'m paraphrasing of course, but isn\'t that what you said?

I\'m not sure what you mean.
Are you telling me you knew that last year that we\'d lose our best defensive player halfway through the 1st game, lose a starting LB for 9 games, suffer the 2nd most injuries in NFL history, have two losses NFL officials apologized for causing, play several games with about half our starters out, have a solid special teams unit completely fold?

You guys act like if those things hadn\'t happened they WOULD have been 12-4. No they wouldn\'t have. There\'s no doubt that injuries and officiating can kill a team, BUT this was not a good team. We beat ONE team with a winning record all year and that was in the last game of the year when they were resting their starters to prepare for the playoffs.

Who would we have beaten? Maybe Carolina in one game. Certainly not Seattle, Tennessee, the Indianapolis game may only have been decided by 30 points instead of 60. I mean come on.

But hey, it\'s OK guys. This year is a new year. Don\'t harp on the fact that you were dead wrong on just about all counts last year. Just do what Billy does, pretend it never happened and focus on the future. Ignoring the past has worked wonders for his ability to predict the future!! LMAO. :P

Just kidding Bill, don\'t go off the handle.

[Edited on 27/8/2004 by WhoDat]

08-26-2004, 04:52 PM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,718	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? I probably would have guessed 8-8 under those circumstances. A moment of silence please. I\'ve been a member of BnG for a LONG time, and this is the first time I\'ve seen the coulda, woulda, shoulda defense. Given its popularity amongst the Saints, I\'m surprised this is the first time it ever came up. I\'m also disappointed in Tweek for pulling that one out. Never thought you\'d be the guy to pull a Mora... tisk, tisk. Can I get a PLAYOFFS rant our of you? I\'m not sure what you mean. Are you telling me you knew that last year that we\'d lose our best defensive player halfway through the 1st game, lose a starting LB for 9 games, suffer the 2nd most injuries in NFL history, have two losses NFL officials apologized for causing, play several games with about half our starters out, have a solid special teams unit completely fold? Is that why you predicted 9-7? Are you telling me knowing all those things would happen wouldn\'t sway your prediction a couple games? Yeah....right crawfish, try that one again. That fuzzy Mora reference may work on some folks, but I ain\'t buying it and I doubt you really do either.

08-26-2004, 05:01 PM	#22
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? WhoDat -- Why do you think it was so UNrealistc to think the Saints could have gone 12-4 or even 13-3? Soon as you answer that. Answer this one please: What was your prediction for the Bucs and how many games were you off? Weren\'t the Bucs 7-9 last year? Can you explain to me how the Bucs finished 7-9? Oh, and what were your other predictions for the rest of the teams in the NFL? Anyone can look like a genius when only PART of the information is avalible. Did you get the Falcons right? Bucs? Panthers? Cowboys? Patriots at 14-2. You predicited that one............ right? Buffalo with your boy Taeko Spikes? Pennington and the J-E-T-S ... JETS JETS JETS???? WHO YOU TRYIN\' TO FOOL WHODAT? WhoDat say they gonna fool dem sunshiners. WhoDat?
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616

08-26-2004, 07:34 PM	#23
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? Why do you think it was so UNrealistc to think the Saints could have gone 12-4 or even 13-3? Take all the reasons you thought 12-4 and apply them as if they didn\'t happen as well as you thought. 8-8 or 9-7. As far as all the injuries and bad calls are concerned, you should realize that this is the Saints and you should get used to this. Bad things are going to happen. It\'s just part of the fun.

08-26-2004, 08:02 PM	#24
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? So, everyone wants to be proven right about last year, huh? Well, I\'ve already said I was wrong about the team last year. In fact, I started a new thread to admit just that. But some guys still want to point out they were right in saying the Saints were terrible. OK, you guys got your props. To all the guys who predicted the Saints to finish 8-8... You guys are geniuses. For those of us who thought the Saints were a playoff team... well.... we aren\'t geniuses. Now what? Do we continue to bring up who was right or wrong about everything last year? Not me. Leave me out. Not this year. It\'s one thing to occasionally bring it up .. It\'s another thing to beat it in the ground. Too many other things to talk about. Like this upcoming season. I\'m well aware that the Saints only have one playoff win in their history. I\'m well aware of the Dec. collapses. I saw John Carney miss the extra point. I\'ve lived through it all !! Someone wants to tell me the Saints still suck? That\'s fine. I welcome that. Just back it up with something. Something other than I told you last year they sucked and they did. Who cares?!?! For those who haven\'t heard me say it: I was WRONG about the Saints last year. Does that mean my opinions are wrong about the Saints this year? Does it make anyone any more credible because they predicted a losing record for the Saints last year? I said all of this for ONE reason. If you are one of those guys who have nothing better to do than just stir things up, then leave me out of it. If you\'re not one of those guys, then disregard this post.
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08-26-2004, 08:14 PM	#25
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? It\'s one thing to occasionally bring it up .. It\'s another thing to beat it in the ground. How many times could this have been said about your pro-Brooks posts? (Some of which I supported) 100? 500?

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08-26-2004, 08:25 PM	#26
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? For those of us who thought the Saints were a playoff team... well.... we aren\'t geniuses. True dat :P Had the Saints getting a wild card birth with a 10-6 record. :P But, I did have the Panthers winning it at 11-5 Hey Cherry, where\'s my props?

08-26-2004, 08:27 PM	#27
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? It\'s one thing to occasionally bring it up .. It\'s another thing to beat it in the ground. How many times could this have been said about your pro-Brooks posts? (Some of which I supported) 100? 500? You miss the point, grasshopper. That was last year. I\'m moving on. How \'bout you?
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08-26-2004, 08:36 PM	#28
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? I\'m sorry. You\'ll need to send me a list of those 2004 Rules. Thanks :P

08-27-2004, 02:21 AM	#29
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,486 Blog Entries: 3	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? Hey BB, Here\'s your PROP\'S.

08-27-2004, 09:05 AM	#30
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Who Are YOU and What Did You Do With WHODAT? Tweeky, predictions are educated guesses about the end result. In other words how you think the team will finish the season, NOT HOW DID THEY GET THERE ALONG THE WAY. The injuires and other BS are neither here nor there. Whodat and myself didn\'t think the team would go better than 9-7. And you know what, however they ended up with an 8-8 record doesn\'t matter. Point is they did and the 12-4 guys were WAY OFF ABOUT THIS TEAM. And that is the reason the 12-4 guys are catching flack is because they were 4 games. WAY OFF. Couldn\'t have said it better myself Gator. Did I know all that crap would happen? No - but I did know two things, 1) the Saints were a team with above average talent and below average performance. 2)They have a history of that and it has been more prominent in the Haslett era. I didn\'t have to know HOW they would find a way to acheive mediocrity, I simply knew that they WOULD. As for my other predictions, Billy, I was more right than I was wrong. I was right about Carolina. I did say NE would be a good team. Certainly, I was wrong about Buffalo and the Bucs. But all that is secondary... we come to this board to focus on the Saints, not other NFL teams. My predictions about the SAINTS were mostly right. You know that - you posted a huge thread at the end of last season abotu how right I was. Shall I repost it for you? To refresh your memory I think you said something like - Whodat was right about the defense not getting much better, right about the offense faltering, right about the coaching staff, right about special teams and M Lewis not being as good, and right about this team\'s performance. I\'m paraphrasing of course, but isn\'t that what you said? I\'m not sure what you mean. Are you telling me you knew that last year that we\'d lose our best defensive player halfway through the 1st game, lose a starting LB for 9 games, suffer the 2nd most injuries in NFL history, have two losses NFL officials apologized for causing, play several games with about half our starters out, have a solid special teams unit completely fold? You guys act like if those things hadn\'t happened they WOULD have been 12-4. No they wouldn\'t have. There\'s no doubt that injuries and officiating can kill a team, BUT this was not a good team. We beat ONE team with a winning record all year and that was in the last game of the year when they were resting their starters to prepare for the playoffs. Who would we have beaten? Maybe Carolina in one game. Certainly not Seattle, Tennessee, the Indianapolis game may only have been decided by 30 points instead of 60. I mean come on. But hey, it\'s OK guys. This year is a new year. Don\'t harp on the fact that you were dead wrong on just about all counts last year. Just do what Billy does, pretend it never happened and focus on the future. Ignoring the past has worked wonders for his ability to predict the future!! LMAO. :P Just kidding Bill, don\'t go off the handle. [Edited on 27/8/2004 by WhoDat]
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