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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I can tell you this, even though the Saints started out 0-4 under Aaron Kromer, I firmly believe he was the better coach out of him and Vitt, if Carmichael was the one calling the plays, he was too conservative ...
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01-04-2013, 01:26 AM | #11 |
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I can tell you this, even though the Saints started out 0-4 under Aaron Kromer, I firmly believe he was the better coach out of him and Vitt, if Carmichael was the one calling the plays, he was too conservative once the team had a 14 pt lead or more.
my rankings: #1 Kromer #2 Vitt #3 Carmichael But I can tell you this, I wont be disappointed in seeing either Kromer or Carmichael leave. Carmichael leaving changes nothing, Kromer was the O-line coach and since this is also an offensive side coach, it will affect nothing with Sean Payton coming back. |
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You mean just like Curtis Johnson leaving to coach tulane didn't affect nothing with the WRs who all of a sudden lead the leauge in drops?
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01-04-2013, 04:38 AM | #13 |
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Originally Posted by Crusader
True, or how after Allen left to Denver the secondary has seen a drastic decline. Anyway, I hope Kromer doesn't go anywhere, because I do think he is probably one of the best O-line coaches in the league at the moment, and I don't think he has what it takes to be a HC... probably not even an OC. If it's only a lateral move for either one of them, like the article suggests might be the case, I don't see either one going to another team unless the Saints don't offer them new contracts or if there's some bad-blood we're not aware of. |
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I really like Kromer. He gets the most possible out of Bushrod and Strief imho. Also look how de la Puente has developed since he joined us, he'll be a prowbowler in a year or two.
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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656
This sums up why I'd hate to lose Kromer.
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01-04-2013, 07:54 AM | #16 |
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Originally Posted by Crusader
I can't deny the drop off after Curtis Johnson's departure, but for the guys who have been here for a long time (they all have), I find it hard to believe that they suddenly forgot how to catch. You can't blame that on a coach not being there. It was a lack of focus, just like every other facet of this team, this season.
And our offensive line wasn't exactly the bees knees this year, either. So in closing, I don't care what our assistant coaches do. They operated a team without it's head coach, and it looked exactly like a team without it's head coach. That shows me that none of these assistants are essential to the teams' success. Payton Is. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Curtis Johnson was here in 2010 and our receivers had the same issues.
He's a great WR coach, but i'm not buying he's the main reason for our drops. A Sean Payton boot placed firmly upon backside is what the main problem is. |
01-04-2013, 12:25 PM | #18 |
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If you review all the drops this year, 95% was because the receivers took their eye off of the ball and looked up-field before they caught it. Totally agree with you a Payton foot would have helped!
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker
Not sure I would go 95% on that one.... Ive watched Jimmy Graham eye them right into his hands and then onto the turf. I have also watched Sproles do the same exact thing... watch them right into his hands. |
01-04-2013, 12:59 PM | #20 |
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Originally Posted by Danno
I'm not all that familiar with the position coaches but I'm thinking any coaching issues are trickle-down-affect from the one big coaching issue we had this season.
For all that went on this season, I kinda' just want to sit back and see if it corrects itself when Payton gets back. If it doesn't, than start lopping off heads. |
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