ESPN's First Take 01-08-12

iceshack149 · 01-08-2013, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Smith represents the nflpa so him saying that the fans were hurt is not a big deal to me. Now if Greg Aiello came out and said the same thing, that would be significant, but that will never happen.

It's big for me. He doesn't represent Payton or the Saints as a team but acknowledged that not only were the players hosed, the coaches and the organization were as well.

He has seen all of the evidence. None of the documentation has been, and will probably never be, available to the public because it will show the obvious flaws in what the NFL has done to the Saints.

The NFL should be forced to produce it's proof.

44Champs · 01-08-2013, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

It's big for me. He doesn't represent Payton or the Saints as a team but acknowledged that not only were the players hosed, the coaches and the organization were as well.

He has seen all of the evidence. None of the documentation has been, and will probably never be, available to the public because it will show the obvious flaws in what the NFL has done to the Saints.

The NFL should be forced to produce it's proof.

Hey I'm with you - anything positive directed towards the Saints regarding this issue is good. But although he doesnt represent Payton or the Saints carte blanche, the NFLPA had already stated that they didn't approve of Goodell's harsh sanctions and punishments, so I'm not surprised that Smith came out and said this. I'd prefer something similar to be said by the NFL, but like I said, that'll never happen until maybe Goodell is gone.

Rugby Saint II · 01-08-2013, 07:13 PM

Bite me Roger! I know that you are too big of an egotistical arse hole to do the right thing. I hope that when you die you are alone and wishing you had done things differently.
I don't want him dead now..........I want him to have to stick around while he gets picked apart.

AsylumGuido · 01-08-2013, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Bite me Roger! I know that you are too big of an egotistical arse hole to do the right thing. I hope that when you die you are alone and wishing you had done things differently.
I don't want him dead now..........I want him to have to stick around while he gets picked apart.

No, not dead yet, but maybe he can get some painful fungus that will rot away his manhood.

Jamessr · 01-09-2013, 07:50 AM

I like the fact that people are saying the coaches were wronged. But again the damage has already been done. People that don't even watch football were calling the Saints cheaters...
New England are cheaters...
Alledged Bounty Programs are just dirty
Pay for performance Salary cap issues
See the difference?
I didn't like the headlines I've seen about how we had to cheat to win and thats simply not the case. The damage done can NEVER be fixed. Roger Goodell job won't even help but it's a start.

Mardigras9 · 01-09-2013, 09:09 AM

The more Goodell is held accountable for the damage done to the Saints the better for us. Although nothing can replace the opportunity missed with the saints and a superbowl in the Dome this year.

QBREES9 · 01-09-2013, 09:14 AM

" Damage has already been done. NOTHING can ever give us back our season."

Fire Goodell.

Jamessr · 01-09-2013, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

" Damage has already been done. NOTHING can ever give us back our season."

Fire Goodell.

As much as I'd like and want that to happen it still doesn't give us back our season. Bottom line is we can never be fully compensated for this past year.

jeanpierre · 01-09-2013, 06:41 PM

IceShack! Where you beeeaen?!?

Watched your video and didn't hear anything 'bout the Saints...

Don't tell me this was some cruel joke to put me through 7 minutes of Skippy, Steven A$$hole and D-Smith for nothing?!?

iceshack149 · 01-09-2013, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

IceShack! Where you beeeaen?!?

Watched your video and didn't hear anything 'bout the Saints...

Don't tell me this was some cruel joke to put me through 7 minutes of Skippy, Steven A$$hole and D-Smith for nothing?!?

Happy New Year!
alexonfyre pointed out, and I agree:

Originally Posted by alexonfyre

Did anyone else notice how quickly ESPN cut him off when he started talking about how the NFL lied at the end?

I've never been a huge fan of "media bias" theories that people use to discard facts they don't want to hear, but I'm willing to make an exception and say that ESPN in big time in the tank with the league.

Perhaps if ESPN didn't broadcast NFL games we'd get to see the whole interview. There was less than a half minute left of that interview and the host of the show was quick to thank Smith and go to commercials.

Sorry for the false advertizing. I tried to warn everyone that I couldn't find the rest of the interview.

01-08-2013, 05:34 PM	#11
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 Originally Posted by 44Champs Smith represents the nflpa so him saying that the fans were hurt is not a big deal to me. Now if Greg Aiello came out and said the same thing, that would be significant, but that will never happen. It's big for me. He doesn't represent Payton or the Saints as a team but acknowledged that not only were the players hosed, the coaches and the organization were as well. He has seen all of the evidence. None of the documentation has been, and will probably never be, available to the public because it will show the obvious flaws in what the NFL has done to the Saints. The NFL should be forced to produce it's proof. Rugby Saint II likes this.

01-08-2013, 05:50 PM	#12
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Originally Posted by iceshack149 It's big for me. He doesn't represent Payton or the Saints as a team but acknowledged that not only were the players hosed, the coaches and the organization were as well. He has seen all of the evidence. None of the documentation has been, and will probably never be, available to the public because it will show the obvious flaws in what the NFL has done to the Saints. The NFL should be forced to produce it's proof. Hey I'm with you - anything positive directed towards the Saints regarding this issue is good. But although he doesnt represent Payton or the Saints carte blanche, the NFLPA had already stated that they didn't approve of Goodell's harsh sanctions and punishments, so I'm not surprised that Smith came out and said this. I'd prefer something similar to be said by the NFL, but like I said, that'll never happen until maybe Goodell is gone.
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01-08-2013, 07:13 PM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 Bite me Roger! I know that you are too big of an egotistical arse hole to do the right thing. I hope that when you die you are alone and wishing you had done things differently. I don't want him dead now..........I want him to have to stick around while he gets picked apart.

01-08-2013, 07:24 PM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Bite me Roger! I know that you are too big of an egotistical arse hole to do the right thing. I hope that when you die you are alone and wishing you had done things differently. I don't want him dead now..........I want him to have to stick around while he gets picked apart. No, not dead yet, but maybe he can get some painful fungus that will rot away his manhood. saintfan and Rugby Saint II like this.

01-09-2013, 07:50 AM	#15
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 I like the fact that people are saying the coaches were wronged. But again the damage has already been done. People that don't even watch football were calling the Saints cheaters... New England are cheaters... Alledged Bounty Programs are just dirty Pay for performance Salary cap issues See the difference? I didn't like the headlines I've seen about how we had to cheat to win and thats simply not the case. The damage done can NEVER be fixed. Roger Goodell job won't even help but it's a start.

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01-09-2013, 09:09 AM	#16
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 The more Goodell is held accountable for the damage done to the Saints the better for us. Although nothing can replace the opportunity missed with the saints and a superbowl in the Dome this year.

01-09-2013, 09:14 AM	#17
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 " Damage has already been done. NOTHING can ever give us back our season." Fire Goodell.

01-09-2013, 09:50 AM	#18
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 Originally Posted by QBREES9 " Damage has already been done. NOTHING can ever give us back our season." Fire Goodell. As much as I'd like and want that to happen it still doesn't give us back our season. Bottom line is we can never be fully compensated for this past year.

01-09-2013, 06:41 PM	#19
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 IceShack! Where you beeeaen?!? Watched your video and didn't hear anything 'bout the Saints... Don't tell me this was some cruel joke to put me through 7 minutes of Skippy, Steven A$$hole and D-Smith for nothing?!?

01-09-2013, 07:03 PM	#20
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Re: ESPN's First Take 01-08-12 Originally Posted by jeanpierre IceShack! Where you beeeaen?!? Watched your video and didn't hear anything 'bout the Saints... Don't tell me this was some cruel joke to put me through 7 minutes of Skippy, Steven A$$hole and D-Smith for nothing?!? Happy New Year! alexonfyre pointed out, and I agree: Originally Posted by alexonfyre Did anyone else notice how quickly ESPN cut him off when he started talking about how the NFL lied at the end? I've never been a huge fan of "media bias" theories that people use to discard facts they don't want to hear, but I'm willing to make an exception and say that ESPN in big time in the tank with the league. Perhaps if ESPN didn't broadcast NFL games we'd get to see the whole interview. There was less than a half minute left of that interview and the host of the show was quick to thank Smith and go to commercials. Sorry for the false advertizing. I tried to warn everyone that I couldn't find the rest of the interview.

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