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I think that Drew may have Injured his shoulder this year slightly yet enough to see a difference in the zip in his throws.

For example , almost every interception throw this season was the good old cock back and dump long to Henderson type play in which this season the ball just fell short and into the defenders range.


I looked at some of his earlier work in the Saints offense 3 or 4 seasons ago and you can see a noticable UMFF on the ball he had then and doesn't seem to have now. The Ball just floated above everyones heads.

He is still a HOF and my favorite QB of all time , but I did notice a difference.

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There were a couple of games when I thought his passes didn't seem to a lot of zip on them. Then the next game it would be back. Maybe there was some minor injury or maybe it was fatigue. In the Atlanta game the ints, just looked like mental errors to me.

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A lack of 'zip' or armstrength doesn't neccesarily have to be because of a shoulder or arm injury, it can b soemthig completely different that still affects the throwing motion, a bum knee or ankle or what not.

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I think there's some validity to the 'injury' speculation, but factoring in the stress and the mental fatigue of going through a season without your H/C makes me agree with Boutte that if there is an injury, it's minor.

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might of been a leg injury that happened in the Carolina game.

Remember that happened in 2010 season to and that offense never really all came out of the jar like we were using to seeing.

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I don't think as fan we should act like the media and start rumors about our own team. I don't see Drew even admitting his arm is getting weak unless it just 100% breaks on him. Hindsight now tells us the we were nowheres ready for this season and the fall out of the bounty program.
I don't think his arm is weak... I just think he had several bad games, nothing more.

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They do complete evaluations on each player before every season and before and after each required offseason session if the coaches notice anything out of the ordinary. If there was an injury, my bet is that they will find it if it doesn't heal.

that said, mental problems don't heal as fast as physical, and this season was all mental.

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Drew has always slightly underthrown receivers deep.

I didn't really notice anything different this year.

But who knows? This staff has shown a tendency to hide injury news from the media before.

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Same thing happened in 2010 or 2011 I believe... We didnt find out until after the season Drew was playing "sore"..

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Which scares me as he is getting older, armstrength deteriorates with increasing age and he never had a cannon to start with. Don't get me wrong, he gets the job done but what I do wonder is if that will continue.

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It's not injury as much as overuse, "having" to throw deep over and over to try to climb out of a hole almost every game this past season. His per game attempts over 50 most games and alot of those trying to eat up chunks of yardage. He still proved he can thread the needle at will.

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its the new balls. not real leather anymore...now they are synthetic leather

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Was it 07 that he injured his ankle and we didn't find out until after the season that it lingered all year? He threw a lot of interceptions that year too if I recall. Anyway a QB like Drew is going to throw interceptions, its just part having a QB with his style of play. The ones I hate are the ones he dumps off when he is pressured and about to get hit. Throw the damn ball away. Ass hole.

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Dude did you just call Drew Brees an ass hole? Really?:censored:

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SMH to this thread!

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I don't think it has anything to do with arms trength. I think he'd rather slightly underthrow it than over-throw it.

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Some people are starting to sound alot like Nick Saban...
More concerned about the arm rather than the person it attached to.

I'm fine with Drew until he or the organization says otherwise. I'm not going to speculate about the best Saint to ever wear the uniform.

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Huh? The Miami team doctors said his arm was shot, not Nick Saban.

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I agree he'd rather underthrow the ball because he is expecting his receiver to come back towards the ball which they didn't do this year for some reason. Graham was the worst at sitting back for a ball instead of coming back to the ball which led to at least 2 ints that I can remember.

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Fair enough
But It was Nick Saban after hearinmg the recommendation of the team doctors and tried to renegotiate a contract for less money and possibly a back up. Hence that point he wasn't concered about The man... just the arm.

Hope that summed up my thought process for you

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Oh-uh! Here comes InjuryGate. Where is Graham when you need him?

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In 2010 Drew was playing with a torn meniscus. Initially, Drew and Sean Payton denied the report,
Report: Brees has fracture, torn meniscus in knee - CBSSports.com

but after the season, Drew confirmed.

SC Interview: Brees says he played this season with a torn MCL - Shutdown Corner - NFL*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

2010 was also Drew's worst year for interceptions. It had a direct effect on how Drew planted his feet for a pass, especially on longer passes.

So this season he had carpal tunnel syndrome from counting his Benjamin's!

:)

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Of All people I'm surprised you made that joke! :)

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That's what happens when you "hold out" and miss training camp. Your arm gets tired later because it didn't get tired during training camp. LOL

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From my understanding the legs is used to zip the ball, than the upper-body which his arms maybe fatigued