I have to blast a bit on your Saban comment, lastly. I'm not a Les Miles fan, as I believe despite his relative success, he has done far less than most would with the kind of talent he's had. But that national title came 3 years after Saban left "the house". That leaves very few of his players left, and it also means that they weren't under his coaching for long, and for those who redshirted, they never played for him. If you give Saban credit for that, then you might aswell give Mike Shula credit for "building the house" that Saban inherited, because he also won his first title with them in his 3rd year.