Saints to a 3-4???

Shoe. · 01-24-2013, 10:23 PM

Singletary ftw

Or Romeo, either one would be spectacular

lumm0x · 01-24-2013, 10:27 PM

Why not? Frankly based on our D last year we didn't have the personnel to run the 4-3 either. The league is moving to a slightly smaller and faster defense scheme trend. I am concerned we don't have the right players and depth at OLB though. I think Bunkley and Hicks can be a good NT rotation. We need a DE or two and we need an impact OLB. Maybe Anthony Spencer? Safety would be my next big concern. But I like the idea of the move. Keep Harper with a pay cut a run him as a hybrid OLB/S on pass downs.

Danno · 01-24-2013, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

So why is everyone assuming that Smith will be gone because of the switch. His strong point is against the run. Wouldn't that make him ideal for a 3-4 DE?

Most 3-4 DE's are much taller than Smith with longer arms. He was even a tad short for a 4-3 DE.

neugey · 01-24-2013, 10:42 PM

Bring in Bill Cowher as DC!

Hey I can dream

hagan714 · 01-24-2013, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

NT-Bunkley
.

NT-Bunkley ? he will never hold up as NT. he got pushed all over the feild last year.

34 does not make a happy camper. I am not solid on this move at all

lee909 · 01-24-2013, 10:54 PM

Wasnt expecting to wake up to this news. Seems a little harsh too me,like he is being made the scapegoat.
Unless them rumours from the unknown player about Spags being unpopular ate true.

Wonder who is coming in to replace him?

pherein · 01-24-2013, 10:59 PM

I think SP is thinking " Well theres no way to make it worse, so might as well change things now" 3-4 is a proper D for the passing happy offenses of the NFL.

burningmetal · 01-24-2013, 11:09 PM

I was saying a couple weeks back that we should change to a 3-4, and it was not generally received well in the forum. I thought with the current group of linebackers and adding wilson as that hybrid DE/LB type player, we could be successful. Or at least improve. I always thought of Martez as a perfect fit in a 3-4, and with Lofton and Hawthorne both natural inside linebackers, it just seemed like the right roster to make this move.

I honestly thought Spagnuolo would get one more year, though.

Vrillon82 · 01-24-2013, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I was saying a couple weeks back that we should change to a 3-4, and it was not generally received well in the forum. I thought with the current group of linebackers and adding wilson as that hybrid DE/LB type player, we could be successful. Or at least improve. I always thought of Martez as a perfect fit in a 3-4, and with Lofton and Hawthorne both natural inside linebackers, it just seemed like the right roster to make this move.

I honestly thought Spagnuolo would get one more year, though.

I was wanting it during the Gary Gibbs years, more so a Cover 2 defense.

Gregg Williams came along, the defense never really did improve but it got turnovers, when they never got turnovers, you see disasters like the San Fran and Seattle game. form 2010 and 2011.

Most people say we dont have the LBs for it or a good Defensive line, but you know...........we dont even have a good defensive line for a damn 4-3.

neugey · 01-24-2013, 11:13 PM

I think Sean realized we would probably have more opportunities to pressure the QB with the 3-4 or even the 3-3-5 than with the 4-3, because we don't have good talent for it like the Vikings or the previous year's Giants do.

But we must be careful and need to be able to hold up okay against the run. We saw what Adrian Peterson and Colin K. did to Dom Capers 3-4 D in some recent weeks.

01-24-2013, 10:23 PM	#41
Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Saints to a 3-4??? Singletary ftw Or Romeo, either one would be spectacular

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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Saints to a 3-4??? Why not? Frankly based on our D last year we didn't have the personnel to run the 4-3 either. The league is moving to a slightly smaller and faster defense scheme trend. I am concerned we don't have the right players and depth at OLB though. I think Bunkley and Hicks can be a good NT rotation. We need a DE or two and we need an impact OLB. Maybe Anthony Spencer? Safety would be my next big concern. But I like the idea of the move. Keep Harper with a pay cut a run him as a hybrid OLB/S on pass downs.

01-24-2013, 10:41 PM	#43
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints to a 3-4??? Originally Posted by Boutte So why is everyone assuming that Smith will be gone because of the switch. His strong point is against the run. Wouldn't that make him ideal for a 3-4 DE? Most 3-4 DE's are much taller than Smith with longer arms. He was even a tad short for a 4-3 DE.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Wasnt expecting to wake up to this news. Seems a little harsh too me,like he is being made the scapegoat. Unless them rumours from the unknown player about Spags being unpopular ate true. Wonder who is coming in to replace him?

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pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints to a 3-4??? I think SP is thinking " Well theres no way to make it worse, so might as well change things now" 3-4 is a proper D for the passing happy offenses of the NFL.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints to a 3-4??? I was saying a couple weeks back that we should change to a 3-4, and it was not generally received well in the forum. I thought with the current group of linebackers and adding wilson as that hybrid DE/LB type player, we could be successful. Or at least improve. I always thought of Martez as a perfect fit in a 3-4, and with Lofton and Hawthorne both natural inside linebackers, it just seemed like the right roster to make this move. I honestly thought Spagnuolo would get one more year, though.

01-24-2013, 11:12 PM	#49
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Saints to a 3-4??? Originally Posted by burningmetal I was saying a couple weeks back that we should change to a 3-4, and it was not generally received well in the forum. I thought with the current group of linebackers and adding wilson as that hybrid DE/LB type player, we could be successful. Or at least improve. I always thought of Martez as a perfect fit in a 3-4, and with Lofton and Hawthorne both natural inside linebackers, it just seemed like the right roster to make this move. I honestly thought Spagnuolo would get one more year, though. I was wanting it during the Gary Gibbs years, more so a Cover 2 defense. Gregg Williams came along, the defense never really did improve but it got turnovers, when they never got turnovers, you see disasters like the San Fran and Seattle game. form 2010 and 2011. Most people say we dont have the LBs for it or a good Defensive line, but you know...........we dont even have a good defensive line for a damn 4-3.
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01-24-2013, 11:13 PM	#50
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Saints to a 3-4??? I think Sean realized we would probably have more opportunities to pressure the QB with the 3-4 or even the 3-3-5 than with the 4-3, because we don't have good talent for it like the Vikings or the previous year's Giants do. But we must be careful and need to be able to hold up okay against the run. We saw what Adrian Peterson and Colin K. did to Dom Capers 3-4 D in some recent weeks.

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