_____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!!

FinSaint · 01-28-2013, 05:31 PM

I don't want them to re-sign Shanle nor do I think that they'll do it, but if he is re-signed to a 1-year deal for the vet minimum - I can live with that since he can be easily cut if they need the roster spot for someone else later on.

Anything above vet minimum is an overpay for Shanle's services IMO!

lsutigerfan · 01-28-2013, 05:50 PM

I'd give Romeus one more year to see if he can stay healthy. If he can, he's no doubt a OLB in a 3-4.

FinSaint · 01-28-2013, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

I'd give Romeus one more year to see if he can stay healthy. If he can, he's no doubt a OLB in a 3-4.

Well, PFW's draft profile listed Romeus as having:

Outstanding body-length and size, long arms, large hands, a thick trunk, and good musculature. He has a strong bull rush and can walk his man into the backfield.

To me, that spells a 3-4 DE, but it remains to be seen if he can remain healthy and what the past two injuries have done to his level of play in general - he might not be the player he once was for the Pitt even if he has fully rehabbed and is able to stay healthy in order to be on the active roster. Also, the DE position should fit him better than the OLB because it shouldn't be as hard on the knees as the edge rushing OLB position.

lsutigerfan · 01-28-2013, 06:33 PM

IMO, he's a better OLB, but I'm no "expert" like the guys on PFW. So I guess only time will tell. I not counting on him staying healthy anyway. Im drooling over having Tez on one side and Ziggy Ansah on the other side. Please let this happen, lol.

FinSaint · 01-28-2013, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

IMO, he's a better OLB, but I'm no "expert" like the guys on PFW. So I guess only time will tell. I not counting on him staying healthy anyway. Im drooling over having Tez on one side and Ziggy Ansah on the other side. Please let this happen, lol.

Big arms are a huge plus for a 3-4 DE, because they allow them to engage more than one O-lineman at a time freeing up lanes for the OLBs to get to the passer, but I don't know either where Romeus would fit the best. I just don't know if he has the coverage skills needed to be an OLB and/or if his knees will allow him to keep up with receivers when needed to?!

TreyThomas · 01-28-2013, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Big arms are a huge plus for a 3-4 DE, because they allow them to engage more than one O-lineman at a time freeing up lanes for the OLBs to get to the passer, but I don't know either where Romeus would fit the best. I just don't know if he has the coverage skills needed to be an OLB and/or if his knees will allow him to keep up with receivers when needed to?!

Eh, 267 lbs is a bit light for a 3-4 DE. Those guys run more in the 280-300 range. In 4-3 schemes, they're DT's.

Not that he CAN'T play DE in a 3-4, but at his current weight, I would say OLB.

alleycat_126 · 01-29-2013, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by TreyThomas

Eh, 267 lbs is a bit light for a 3-4 DE. Those guys run more in the 280-300 range. In 4-3 schemes, they're DT's.

Not that he CAN'T play DE in a 3-4, but at his current weight, I would say OLB.

The funny part about this is I was lobbying for Romeus to replace Vilma in a 4-3 as a DE for the past 2 seasons. I think he could come in and help in a 3-4 as a DE but I don't think he would hold up as an OLB coming off back to back season ending injuries. " We haven't seen him play a down we don't know what he is capable of.....

Chamberlain is the exact same way!!!!

FinSaint · 01-29-2013, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by TreyThomas

Eh, 267 lbs is a bit light for a 3-4 DE. Those guys run more in the 280-300 range. In 4-3 schemes, they're DT's.

Not that he CAN'T play DE in a 3-4, but at his current weight, I would say OLB.

Naturally, but that is something that he can change if need be, it's impossible to change physical traits like long hands and and big arms, but not how much you weigh.

At the moment he would be underweight for a 3-4 DE position, but he has the frame to support more mass - it's just a matter of whether or not his back and knees could really support that added weight without any problems.

Oh, and we really still don't know what his current health situation is or if he can even be a productive player after sitting out two years away from the game, so it's all just speculation at this point and he'd be a depth guy at best.

alleycat_126 · 01-30-2013, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

IMO, he's a better OLB, but I'm no "expert" like the guys on PFW. So I guess only time will tell. I not counting on him staying healthy anyway. Im drooling over having Tez on one side and Ziggy Ansah on the other side. Please let this happen, lol.

Overhyped.......

I think You would do better with Dion Jordan, Alex Okefor, Datone Jones, than Ziggy Ansah...... Ansah is a project, although we do have a thing with the project guy we just don't have the time. Ansah should not be a first rounder, He is close to JPP in build only, no way I waste my first rounder on him.

lsutigerfan · 01-30-2013, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Overhyped.......

I think You would do better with Dion Jordan, Alex Okefor, Datone Jones, than Ziggy Ansah...... Ansah is a project, although we do have a thing with the project guy we just don't have the time. Ansah should not be a first rounder, He is close to JPP in build only, no way I waste my first rounder on him.

I would be just as excited with Dion Jordan, I like Datone Jones and Im not high on Alex Okefor like most people are.

01-28-2013, 05:31 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! I don't want them to re-sign Shanle nor do I think that they'll do it, but if he is re-signed to a 1-year deal for the vet minimum - I can live with that since he can be easily cut if they need the roster spot for someone else later on. Anything above vet minimum is an overpay for Shanle's services IMO!

01-28-2013, 05:50 PM	#2
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! I'd give Romeus one more year to see if he can stay healthy. If he can, he's no doubt a OLB in a 3-4.

01-28-2013, 06:19 PM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! Originally Posted by lsutigerfan I'd give Romeus one more year to see if he can stay healthy. If he can, he's no doubt a OLB in a 3-4. Well, PFW's draft profile listed Romeus as having: Outstanding body-length and size, long arms, large hands, a thick trunk, and good musculature. He has a strong bull rush and can walk his man into the backfield. To me, that spells a 3-4 DE, but it remains to be seen if he can remain healthy and what the past two injuries have done to his level of play in general - he might not be the player he once was for the Pitt even if he has fully rehabbed and is able to stay healthy in order to be on the active roster. Also, the DE position should fit him better than the OLB because it shouldn't be as hard on the knees as the edge rushing OLB position.
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01-28-2013, 06:33 PM	#4
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! IMO, he's a better OLB, but I'm no "expert" like the guys on PFW. So I guess only time will tell. I not counting on him staying healthy anyway. Im drooling over having Tez on one side and Ziggy Ansah on the other side. Please let this happen, lol.

01-28-2013, 07:43 PM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! Originally Posted by lsutigerfan IMO, he's a better OLB, but I'm no "expert" like the guys on PFW. So I guess only time will tell. I not counting on him staying healthy anyway. Im drooling over having Tez on one side and Ziggy Ansah on the other side. Please let this happen, lol. Big arms are a huge plus for a 3-4 DE, because they allow them to engage more than one O-lineman at a time freeing up lanes for the OLBs to get to the passer, but I don't know either where Romeus would fit the best. I just don't know if he has the coverage skills needed to be an OLB and/or if his knees will allow him to keep up with receivers when needed to?!

01-28-2013, 08:44 PM	#6
TreyThomas Registered Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 82	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! Originally Posted by FinSaint Big arms are a huge plus for a 3-4 DE, because they allow them to engage more than one O-lineman at a time freeing up lanes for the OLBs to get to the passer, but I don't know either where Romeus would fit the best. I just don't know if he has the coverage skills needed to be an OLB and/or if his knees will allow him to keep up with receivers when needed to?! Eh, 267 lbs is a bit light for a 3-4 DE. Those guys run more in the 280-300 range. In 4-3 schemes, they're DT's. Not that he CAN'T play DE in a 3-4, but at his current weight, I would say OLB. lsutigerfan likes this.
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01-29-2013, 04:13 AM	#7
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! Originally Posted by TreyThomas Eh, 267 lbs is a bit light for a 3-4 DE. Those guys run more in the 280-300 range. In 4-3 schemes, they're DT's. Not that he CAN'T play DE in a 3-4, but at his current weight, I would say OLB. The funny part about this is I was lobbying for Romeus to replace Vilma in a 4-3 as a DE for the past 2 seasons. I think he could come in and help in a 3-4 as a DE but I don't think he would hold up as an OLB coming off back to back season ending injuries. " We haven't seen him play a down we don't know what he is capable of..... Chamberlain is the exact same way!!!!

01-29-2013, 04:31 AM	#8
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! Originally Posted by TreyThomas Eh, 267 lbs is a bit light for a 3-4 DE. Those guys run more in the 280-300 range. In 4-3 schemes, they're DT's. Not that he CAN'T play DE in a 3-4, but at his current weight, I would say OLB. Naturally, but that is something that he can change if need be, it's impossible to change physical traits like long hands and and big arms, but not how much you weigh. At the moment he would be underweight for a 3-4 DE position, but he has the frame to support more mass - it's just a matter of whether or not his back and knees could really support that added weight without any problems. Oh, and we really still don't know what his current health situation is or if he can even be a productive player after sitting out two years away from the game, so it's all just speculation at this point and he'd be a depth guy at best. Crusader likes this.
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01-30-2013, 04:59 AM	#9
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! Originally Posted by lsutigerfan IMO, he's a better OLB, but I'm no "expert" like the guys on PFW. So I guess only time will tell. I not counting on him staying healthy anyway. Im drooling over having Tez on one side and Ziggy Ansah on the other side. Please let this happen, lol. Overhyped....... I think You would do better with Dion Jordan, Alex Okefor, Datone Jones, than Ziggy Ansah...... Ansah is a project, although we do have a thing with the project guy we just don't have the time. Ansah should not be a first rounder, He is close to JPP in build only, no way I waste my first rounder on him.

01-30-2013, 06:09 AM	#10
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: _____________ doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme!!!! Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Overhyped....... I think You would do better with Dion Jordan, Alex Okefor, Datone Jones, than Ziggy Ansah...... Ansah is a project, although we do have a thing with the project guy we just don't have the time. Ansah should not be a first rounder, He is close to JPP in build only, no way I waste my first rounder on him. I would be just as excited with Dion Jordan, I like Datone Jones and Im not high on Alex Okefor like most people are.

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