Saints Salary Triggers hit

Danno · 01-31-2013, 04:35 PM

We have a $2.6 million kicker and a $3 million Punter?

Wow.

st thomas · 01-31-2013, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We have a $2.6 million kicker and a $3 million Punter?

Wow.

hartley is losing trust and confidence, next season will have more stress with the coach staring down his but.

Halo · 01-31-2013, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We have a $2.6 million kicker and a $3 million Punter?

Wow.

Punter is worth every penny. End of comment.

BUT the kicker - Fartley - uh NO!

When he makes me so nervous on EXTRA POINTS much less 20 yarders that I'm calling for the return of John Kasey (who is 43 and in my opinion has 2 years leg left in him still), then Fartley either restructures or can bite me.

I know Coach Payton has a soft spot for Hartley but man, 2.6 mill against the cap? that's definitely a pet project that could literally BOOT us out a playoff birth or lose a playoff game.

I know, I know, he kicked the big-one... but since then we discovered he was using Adderall to perform. He obviously does not have ADHD because if he did he would have Adderall legally and be more focused. He semi-sucked again in 2012.

Danno · 01-31-2013, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Punter is worth every penny. End of comment.

Disagree, its the least important position in all of football. End of discussion.

Rugby Saint II · 01-31-2013, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Disagree, its the least important position in all of football. End of discussion.

He also does kick offs.

Danno · 01-31-2013, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

He also does kick offs.

With the shorter field that's less important than ever.

SaintnDE · 02-01-2013, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Disagree, its the least important position in all of football. End of discussion.

Totally disagree. The guy is a stud at giving us great field position after every punt.

Hartley on the other hand is a complete surprise...I actually thought he'd be one of the first to get cut. I like Kasay soooo much better.

Danno · 02-01-2013, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by SaintnDE

Totally disagree. The guy is a stud at giving us great field position after every punt.

Hartley on the other hand is a complete surprise...I actually thought he'd be one of the first to get cut. I like Kasay soooo much better.

I doubt teams are scared of the 3 extra yards they have to go. Thats barely over 1/2 of a single play in todays NFL.

burningmetal · 02-01-2013, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I doubt teams are scared of the 3 extra yards they have to go. Thats barely over 1/2 of a single play in todays NFL.

He gave us a lot better than an extra 3 yards. His distance and hang time had him on pace to break the record for net average in a season, and I believe he did break the record. He gave the defense great field position countless times. It isn't his fault if our defense gave up 95 yard drives.

And he bailed the offense out of some tight spots quite a bit, also. That is very valuable. You can't put the blame on him just because his team didn't capitalize on the field position every time. Do I think people should make millions for kicking a ball? No. But this is professional sports, if you want to keep the best players you have to pay them. If the Saints had let Morstead test the waters, somebody else would have paid him what he wanted.

Danno · 02-01-2013, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He gave us a lot better than an extra 3 yards. His distance and hang time had him on pace to break the record for net average in a season, and I believe he did break the record. He gave the defense great field position countless times. It isn't his fault if our defense gave up 95 yard drives.

And he bailed the offense out of some tight spots quite a bit, also. That is very valuable. You can't put the blame on him just because his team didn't capitalize on the field position every time. Do I think people should make millions for kicking a ball? No. But this is professional sports, if you want to keep the best players you have to pay them. If the Saints had let Morstead test the waters, somebody else would have paid him what he wanted.

Morstead net average =44.8
NFL net average = 41.4

He gave us an extra 3.4 yards (my bad, I rounded down).

Thats actually 2/3 of ONE single offensive snap. (I should have been more precise)

01-31-2013, 04:35 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit We have a $2.6 million kicker and a $3 million Punter? Wow. Halo, st thomas and pherein like this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by Danno We have a $2.6 million kicker and a $3 million Punter? Wow. hartley is losing trust and confidence, next season will have more stress with the coach staring down his but.

01-31-2013, 05:01 PM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by Danno We have a $2.6 million kicker and a $3 million Punter? Wow. Punter is worth every penny. End of comment. BUT the kicker - Fartley - uh NO! When he makes me so nervous on EXTRA POINTS much less 20 yarders that I'm calling for the return of John Kasey (who is 43 and in my opinion has 2 years leg left in him still), then Fartley either restructures or can bite me. I know Coach Payton has a soft spot for Hartley but man, 2.6 mill against the cap? that's definitely a pet project that could literally BOOT us out a playoff birth or lose a playoff game. I know, I know, he kicked the big-one... but since then we discovered he was using Adderall to perform. He obviously does not have ADHD because if he did he would have Adderall legally and be more focused. He semi-sucked again in 2012. Ashley likes this.
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01-31-2013, 06:15 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by Halo Punter is worth every penny. End of comment. Disagree, its the least important position in all of football. End of discussion.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by Danno Disagree, its the least important position in all of football. End of discussion. He also does kick offs.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II He also does kick offs. With the shorter field that's less important than ever.

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SaintnDE 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 443	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by Danno Disagree, its the least important position in all of football. End of discussion. Totally disagree. The guy is a stud at giving us great field position after every punt. Hartley on the other hand is a complete surprise...I actually thought he'd be one of the first to get cut. I like Kasay soooo much better.
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02-01-2013, 08:19 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by SaintnDE Totally disagree. The guy is a stud at giving us great field position after every punt. Hartley on the other hand is a complete surprise...I actually thought he'd be one of the first to get cut. I like Kasay soooo much better. I doubt teams are scared of the 3 extra yards they have to go. Thats barely over 1/2 of a single play in todays NFL.

02-01-2013, 09:48 AM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by Danno I doubt teams are scared of the 3 extra yards they have to go. Thats barely over 1/2 of a single play in todays NFL. He gave us a lot better than an extra 3 yards. His distance and hang time had him on pace to break the record for net average in a season, and I believe he did break the record. He gave the defense great field position countless times. It isn't his fault if our defense gave up 95 yard drives. And he bailed the offense out of some tight spots quite a bit, also. That is very valuable. You can't put the blame on him just because his team didn't capitalize on the field position every time. Do I think people should make millions for kicking a ball? No. But this is professional sports, if you want to keep the best players you have to pay them. If the Saints had let Morstead test the waters, somebody else would have paid him what he wanted.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

02-01-2013, 10:13 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints Salary Triggers hit Originally Posted by burningmetal He gave us a lot better than an extra 3 yards. His distance and hang time had him on pace to break the record for net average in a season, and I believe he did break the record. He gave the defense great field position countless times. It isn't his fault if our defense gave up 95 yard drives. And he bailed the offense out of some tight spots quite a bit, also. That is very valuable. You can't put the blame on him just because his team didn't capitalize on the field position every time. Do I think people should make millions for kicking a ball? No. But this is professional sports, if you want to keep the best players you have to pay them. If the Saints had let Morstead test the waters, somebody else would have paid him what he wanted. Morstead net average =44.8 NFL net average = 41.4 He gave us an extra 3.4 yards (my bad, I rounded down). Thats actually 2/3 of ONE single offensive snap. (I should have been more precise)

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