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With facing an overhaul on defense in a deep defensivel draft, it really hurts not ha ving a #2pick trading back into the 20s and getting a2nd rd pick would be the way to go With who and for what is the question. NT and RushLB would be my targets and also see us picking a safety if the right players was available. Thoughts Opinions?

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That's what I've been thinking lately. Trading down in the 1st round and picking up a 2nd rounder almost makes too much sense. With all of the great prospects this year for 3-4 OLB's we can certainly snag one later in the 1st round. As far as a potential 2nd round pick, I'd just say best defensive player available regardless of position.

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I'm OK with a trade down if that elite guy isn't there at 15, and we have several others all rated equally.

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I've been advocating getting the impact player and standing pat...........if there isn't one there then by all means trade back.

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Yep, although it would be really cool to pick up a premier NT to form the rest of the defense around.

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at this point why not. if we do i would love to see us move down in small steps more than once.

heck i would accept trading the first round pick for a second this year and first next year

package those two picks for Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina?

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I agree with Danno, it depends on who is still on the board. In any case the first two picks I'd draft front 7 guys before taking a safety.

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Actually the best NT from the Senior Bowl is a small school guy who is projected to be picked in the 3rd of 4th round Brandon Williams from Missouri Southern....

I really don't think we have any luck with DT's in the first round. NT will probably be the same way if we draft one at 15

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If paytons guy is there at 15 and theres 17 teams that want paytons guy. Its a no brainer. TRADE down

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Or trade way the hell up give up next years one and take a late first a late second and an early third. Im done

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I don't think we neccesarily have to trade don to get a 2nd rounder, it could be another 3rd and a 4th for example. Trading down we would likely ge a pick pretty late in the 2nd.

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This thread should have been called trade down with the words PLEASE in caps..... Unless one of the top pash rusher mistakenly drops into our laps I see no reason not to trade back, recoup a 2cnd. We should also be looking for trade value for some of the player who no longer fit our scheme and get picks that way because this draft is so defensively deep.

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That "elite" at 15 better be either a defensiveback, d-lineman, or o-lineman because I ain't gonna be too happy if we pickup another "runningback"/skills player just because he was the best player on the board.

This draft "ES MUCHO IMPORTANTE" in determining if we can return to the BIG GAME in the next 2 to 3 years.

Our defense has slowly disbanded since 2009 and not only do we have very little depth at some key positions, but some of our players are just plain getting old.

And NO we do not need yet another middle linebacker, we have like 5.

I look at the team,especially on offence as having a small window to get back to the superbowl.We need to make use of older veteran free agents to fill out certain spots as the cap room isn't getting better in the next couple of years from what I see.
The big question got me is do you keep Brees through the length of his deal or do you look to replace him in 2/3 years and trade him on for some high picks.
Look at the deal the Bengals got for Palmer,those deals can set you up if you draft well.

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Not sure how much value there is in trading down. 15 is no man's land. Expensive players but not elite at that position. 2 second round picks would be a stretch.

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True, if there's a player at 15 some other team covets enough to throw in a 2nd/3rd rounder, he's probably elite enough to warrant us selecting him.

Trading down will likely only net us a late rounder or moving up in later rounds.

Maybe a swap, we get someone's 2nd but have to give them our 3rd, etc etc...

Draft picks are cheap and we'll be bumping the cap for several more years
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We absolutely have to start drafting better. Free-agents are too expensive. We need cheaper talent... you get that in THE DRAFT!!!!

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There were alot of promising defensive players at the senior bowl. I am sure Payton has a game plan in place.

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+1

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There is no reason to trade back.

I say stay put and keep with the program... draft best player available. We could use help on D sure but we also could use help on the O line as well. Snag a top 15 impact player or someone we can develop for the future.

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Almost every team goes into the draft hoping the player they want can be had a few picks later and they can make a move down and add a late round pick or two for free and still get the guy you target. And it seldom happens.

Just draft the guy you want at each spot unless someone unexpected is falling.

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Yeah, I agree with you guys. Trading down would be ideal, especially if it would net the Saints a good return and still allow them tot get the player they were targeting the whole time.

But, that is going to depend totally on how the draft develops on the draft day and which players the teams picking behind the Saints are coveting and how much.

So, definitely keep the option open for any possibilities to trade down, but they can't build their draft day strategy on the belief that they can find a trading partner.

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Never been a fan of best player available. Best player to fill a need and boy, do we have needs...

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Everyone keeps saying draft a premier NT, but does no one remember that is exactly what Bunkley was for the broncos? He graded out as the best NT in the league 2 years ago.

Same with Aubroyo Franklin. We tried TWICE to make NT's into 4-3 DT's and it failed miserably.

Why not give Bunkley a chance to be that premier 3-4 NT again?

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Regardless of whether or not Bunkley can do the job as the NT, the Saints do need depth at that position, and the thinking probably is to draft a promising NT now, so that he can learn the system under a veteran like Bunkley.

Bunkley might do really well as the starting NT, like he did in Denver, but he is not going to be a long-time NT for the Saints, so they need a guy to be that "franchise NT."

I do like Bunkley as a player, and I think that he deserves a shot at being the starting NT, but I would prefer someone bigger in stature than Bunkley to anchor that nose. Bunkley's huge upper body strength allows him to be successful againts O-lineman even though he doesn't necessarily have the ideal size for the position, however, I think that size thing is what will keep him from ever being a truly dominant NT.