burningmetal

This is literally the last guy I wanted them to hire. Why would we want anything to do with this sideshow? Haven't we endured enough of that already? I honestly wouldn't care if he were the greatest DC of all time coming in. I still wouldn't want his loud mouth infecting the team. But the reality is that this guy is an average coordinator, at best.

Jankman8

I like the idea of hiring him. The Dallas D had some nice stints last year and if there was one thing missing in our D last year it was swagger, which Ryan brings a lot to the table.

TheOak

Saints interview Todd Grantham from Alabama tomorrow, Ryan on Friday. Regardless of what the news says, they are still interviewing.


Ryan has never been a DC on a team with a winning record, and that bothers me. I do buy into the value of "knowing how to win"..... Which has little to do with football and more to do with not imploding you can taste victory. Winning is a culture.

EG Atlanta Falcons

SloMotion

... and so is losing, which is why I agree that Ryan never having been a DC on a winning team should be a concern. Coaches like Ryan, IMO, subscribe to the "if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with bullsh#t" philosophy and surround their programs with a lot of hype, drama, smoke, mirrors & theatrics in order to make it seem like their accomplishing something. Similiar to GW.

On the upside & from what I've seen, you can get away with that act when you DC for a team that has an offense like Brees & the Saints, so if Ryan is the choice, maybe it's only a two/three year plan.

Jamessr

Don't forget the almighty Sean Payton also hired spagnuola as well

xan

I'd like to note that if this measured time period is 5 minutes, I'd have been an 11 time Olympic Champion in the 400m Freestyle.

SmashMouth

Todd Grantham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

TheOak

Looks like grantham and Ryan stomped some of the same grounds but at different time periods.. Browns and Cowboys.

However Grantham was on winning teams, good accomplishments, has installed a 3-4 before, and his background is in the D-line. From what I read on both i would rather Grantham.

saintsfan1976

As would I. Living here in Atlanta i've watched UGA closely. He's done a stellar job of building and coaching a very good college defense - One that almost beat Alabama.

Seer1

Grantham:
Pros- Giving a "choke" sign to Mike Smith next year.
Someone might finally explain to me what a Hokie is and why it's a good thing.
Cons- Kind of a spotty record with the pros. "He was fired on January 11, 2008 after the 2007 season with the Brown's defense ranking 25th against the pass, 27th against the run, and 30th in total-yards-against among 32 teams."

Ryan:
Pros- His un-miced cussing on the sidelines is legendary. It could maybe even get Bilick to actually talk about the game instead of babbling on about every other team in the league.
Cons- Some kid in some sweatshop'll be putting in some major extra hours sewing big ol' fleur de lis on big ol' shirts for maybe ten twelve cents an hour.

Draw- They were both DCs for Cleveland although Ryan was hired in after Grantham was fired and did a fairly decent job considering he had to deal with Holmgren, Mangina and the fact that the defense was on the field about eighty percent of the time due to some of the amazing decisions made by the two idiots mentioned above. I'm still in the we'll see camp although I really would like to finally find out what a freakin' hokie is.