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Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 478177)

Okay, let's use you as our pre-season prognosticator. how did you feel about Spags this time last year?

See I'm not sure what to think about Big Rob. I was mildly positive and hugely hopeful about Spags. After last year, I have a real Missouri attitude toward all of'em. When I think about it, they're all either out of work, coaching down at the college level, or doing something other than a DC gig. So I'm wondering how you were feeling about Spags last year so I can get something to base my opinion on.

I wanted jack

i believe spags ego got in the way and he was unwilling to move players back to other positions they played before. no 1/2 time adjustments drove me crazzyyyyyy

but no matter which way they go i will let the season run its course and give them a shot. heck i was still giving spags another pass for 2013.

Still wanted some one to ask him how many MLB it takes to fill a LB Corp in a 43?

it looks like the list is getting shorter. niners kinda took the wind out of my sails. again :brood:

Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 478277)

Ill give you that 20% of the D may have been an unknown... HOWEVER, Spags was a huge part of the decision on the defensive drafts and FA. So he made part of his own bed.

Nothing wrong with the defensive draft, Hicks and White were both strong picks, and both will be big contributors in the future - yes, White also.

And Spags definitely had a hand in the free agency, but he can't really do anything if the FO can't get a player signed whom Spags would've wanted.

But anyway, it doesn't matter. Spags clearly wasn't the answer, but he definitely wasn't the only reason why the defense was as bad as it was, no matter how much some seem to think so.

Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 478192)

I cant agree with that. Payton has learned what damage a loose cannon can actually do. Ive seen nothing to prove Payton can control a loose cannon. That takes too much evergy and we do not need distractions. We have enough already.

That's my point Oak - he's learned a lesson from giving a guy like GW free reign.

Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans

An attitude is not always the best thing to have, :wink:

Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans

Personally I think its was Sprag and not so much the defense. Sprags was a HC sense 2009. 3 Years of being god on the field to build his ego, and 3 years to forget how to be a great DC.
He walked in here still in HC mode, and with no one like SP to slap him around on the sidelines, he pretty much did what he wanted. I think some of the players statements support that.

Not saying Sprags is a bad guy or DC. Just saying he forget how to be a DC and acted like a HC to the defense. In 2-3 seasons Sprag will find his place again, and forget about getting another HC job. But he wasnt ready when he came here. The numbers on D were way to horrible to blame it on players.
..and one of the hazards of hiring a HC who used to be a great DC removed from coorinating for so long .. and the only thing that worries me about Crennel also. Otherwise I like Crennel as a pick.

Re: Rob Ryan would bring attitude and an attacking 3-4 scheme to New Orleans

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 478305)

That's my point Oak - he's learned a lesson from giving a guy like GW free reign.

However if you want true talent you have to give up autonomy. If you dont then... well see Jerry Jones and his ability to get talented coaches.