He installed his own "version".... Did not continue with Wade Phillips 3-4...

So yes, he installed a 3-4.

Installing a 3-4 on a 3-4 and installing a 3-4 on a 4-3 are two vastly different concepts. He's putting a 427 in a 396 car. The other is putting a Ford engine in a chevy. The semantics of your link are just that. He's adding wrinkles to a base scheme. Not completely changing overall front 7 personnel formations and gap responsibilities. He was working with guys who experienced a 3-4 and not trying to fit square pegs in round holes like he will be doing here. Absolutely any coach going to a new team is installing their own version of any base defense. I do not credit Spags with installing a 4-3 when he came here last year. We already were a 4-3 but under a different coverage and pressure concept. Certain responsibilities change and that's it.

I don't get the love for Grantham. Just because he runs a 3-4 and Georgia (which by virtue of being UGA has favorable recruitment in the SEC) has had success against lesser teams, doesn't mean he's going to come here and turn the Saints D into the Dome Patrol 2.0. Then you have a distinct lack of in-game adjustments, and rumblings about character from NFL players from his time in Cleveland.

Spagnuolo's demise came about because he refused to adjust his game plan to the personnel at hand, a complete lack of in-game adjustments, and there were rumblings players didn't like him (regardless of Vilma's attempts to keep matters in house). Are you sure you want more of the same?

Ryan, on the other hand, may be a character, but by all accounts, his players like him, and while none of the defenses he's fielded have been what you'd call great, he at least has been able to field mid-tier defenses, even while working in dysfunctional franchises like Oakland, Cleveland, and Dallas, and going through rashes of injuries, like the Cowboys last year, who lost 5-6 starters, and still finished in the second tier (10-20 rank) in defense.

Fairly moot point to argue as I am not an advocate for Ryan.... So thanks for proving my point... Grantham > Ryan

I read something about player grumblings but it sounded like heresay. Do you have more info on this?

Anyhow, my favorite is still Romeo.

There is a lot of talent in that UGA defense, and it is easier to work with talent than without; and according to some, the Saints have no talent at D, so why would you bring a guy like that?

BTW, I am with you on Crennel.

Yes, I know. We do have some talent on defense, probably about NFL average. We just lack those 2 or 3 difference makers, especially in the front 7.

I just shake my head when I hear someone say we have gaping holes everywhere on defense, or that we have absolutely no talent on defense.

We need some Bama and Bengal Tigers on the Saints' team!