New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson

spkb25 · 02-28-2013, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Football Outsiders has Henderson having had a 47% catch rate - some passes were naturally incomplete passes and not drops. Still, that supports what I observed during this season; he dropped many catchable passes, which he would've caught in the past. Now, whether or not it was due to him having an off-year is beyond my deductive skills, but I just don't think the Saints can afford to spend a roster spot on him in the hopes that this past season was simply a fluke.

Morgan has shown that he can be that deep threat and that he has the skills to make some circus catches along the way. And Toon will, in all likelihood, need to get on the field on some plays to develop as a receiver. So where would that leave Henderson? On the bench is the answer, and if there's another team that would be willing to offer him a better chance of more frequent snaps - I would prefer for his sake that he takes that chance.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | WIDE RECEIVERS 2012

I don't think you're off. Best year was 32 catches the article said, so...

NuNu318 · 02-13-2013, 09:58 AM

There was a time when Henderson was our burner...but unfortunately age has caught up with he just can't blow past guys like he used to. And with guys like Morgan & Toon who will have their first true offseason with Drew (Morgan 1st season caught balls exculsivly from Chase and was put on IR before the season started...2nd season Drew held out and once again coming off of injury played mostly with Chase & Toon was on IR) I think Henderson is the odd man out.

I will miss him though. I always liked him and respected how he continued to improve regardless of how people including Saints fans bashed him. Remember when he could burn any and every DB when he first started but had cinder blocks for hands then all of a sudden they were like super glue? That was so great.

If their willing to keep him and he's willing to get paid much less I'm all for it. But I would be supportive of him if he finds a team that he can be a major part of.

TheOak · 02-13-2013, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by NuNu318

There was a time when Henderson was our burner...but unfortunately age has caught up with he just can't blow past guys like he used to. And with guys like Morgan & Toon who will have their first true offseason with Drew (Morgan 1st season caught balls exculsivly from Chase and was put on IR before the season started...2nd season Drew held out and once again coming off of injury played mostly with Chase & Toon was on IR) I think Henderson is the odd man out.

I will miss him though. I always liked him and respected how he continued to improve regardless of how people including Saints fans bashed him. Remember when he could burn any and every DB when he first started but had cinder blocks for hands then all of a sudden they were like super glue? That was so great.

If their willing to keep him and he's willing to get paid much less I'm all for it. But I would be supportive of him if he finds a team that he can be a major part of.

If I may ask, what would you keep him for?

He is a specialized receiver as you pointed out and has lost that speed. What position on the 53 would you sacrifice for a reciever with not a whole lot of upside at this point in his career? Do we need 7 WRs (based off of 2012)?

NuNu318 · 02-13-2013, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

If I may ask, what would you keep him for?

He is a specialized receiver as you pointed out and has lost that speed. What position on the 53 would you sacrifice for a reciever with not a whole lot of upside at this point in his career? Do we need 7 WRs (based off of 2012)?

If anything he would serve as experieced depth.Much like say a Donald Driver or Hines Ward did for a yr or 2 before they finally retired. Just in case someone does go down in the offseason or during the season you have someone there that knows the offense like the back of his hand and even though he has lost a step can still contribute somewhat.

Like I said though it would have to be a dirt cheap contract. But because he's been a great player for us for the most part. I wouldn't mind keeping him if they can find a use for him and he's good with that. I compare him to a Donald Driver Hines Ward type because I think he's the type that would take the much lesser role to retire with the team he started with.

And if they can sacrifice a roster spot for Cadet like they did last season I'm pretty sure they can find space for Devery.

Budsdrinker · 02-13-2013, 10:26 AM

Vets minimum this year with 7-9 years service is around $840,000.
If Devery would play for that with incentive bonuses added, I would re-signed him. Be one hell of a 5 wide set, Colston, Moore, Toon or Morgan, Graham and Devery. 2 speedsters on the outside with possession guys in the middle. You think Payton has that play drawn up with his time off last season?

MatthewT · 02-13-2013, 11:07 AM

Devery has always been my favorite Saints receiver, but it is painfully obvious to me he is done as a Saint. Watching him decline in 2012 for whatever reason was hard. I wish Devery nothing but the best, and I really hope he keeps playing but outside the division.

saintfan · 02-13-2013, 11:20 AM

I don't know that he has diminished so much as I think we may have problems paying the man. Personally I'd love to keep him on if possible (or unless someone beats him out in camp).

Danno · 02-13-2013, 11:21 AM

If we have any money left over after we sign defensive free-agents, Bushrod and DLP then I'm all for re-signing Devery, right after Chris Ivory.

stickman · 02-13-2013, 11:22 AM

Won't hold the drops from last year against him as that seemed to be a problem with the whole team.

That said. At his age and probable salary, given the team's cap issues, I don't think he's brought back.

Congrats though Devery! Louisiana native who won a National Championship with LSU and a Superbowl with the Saints. What more could you ask for?

TheOak · 02-13-2013, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by stickman

Won't hold the drops from last year against him as that seemed to be a problem with the whole team.

Except Lance Moore

02-28-2013, 05:09 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson Originally Posted by FinSaint Football Outsiders has Henderson having had a 47% catch rate - some passes were naturally incomplete passes and not drops. Still, that supports what I observed during this season; he dropped many catchable passes, which he would've caught in the past. Now, whether or not it was due to him having an off-year is beyond my deductive skills, but I just don't think the Saints can afford to spend a roster spot on him in the hopes that this past season was simply a fluke. Morgan has shown that he can be that deep threat and that he has the skills to make some circus catches along the way. And Toon will, in all likelihood, need to get on the field on some plays to develop as a receiver. So where would that leave Henderson? On the bench is the answer, and if there's another team that would be willing to offer him a better chance of more frequent snaps - I would prefer for his sake that he takes that chance. FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis \| WIDE RECEIVERS 2012 I don't think you're off. Best year was 32 catches the article said, so...

02-13-2013, 09:58 AM	#2
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson There was a time when Henderson was our burner...but unfortunately age has caught up with he just can't blow past guys like he used to. And with guys like Morgan & Toon who will have their first true offseason with Drew (Morgan 1st season caught balls exculsivly from Chase and was put on IR before the season started...2nd season Drew held out and once again coming off of injury played mostly with Chase & Toon was on IR) I think Henderson is the odd man out. I will miss him though. I always liked him and respected how he continued to improve regardless of how people including Saints fans bashed him. Remember when he could burn any and every DB when he first started but had cinder blocks for hands then all of a sudden they were like super glue? That was so great. If their willing to keep him and he's willing to get paid much less I'm all for it. But I would be supportive of him if he finds a team that he can be a major part of. ClintSaints likes this.

02-13-2013, 10:19 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson Originally Posted by NuNu318 There was a time when Henderson was our burner...but unfortunately age has caught up with he just can't blow past guys like he used to. And with guys like Morgan & Toon who will have their first true offseason with Drew (Morgan 1st season caught balls exculsivly from Chase and was put on IR before the season started...2nd season Drew held out and once again coming off of injury played mostly with Chase & Toon was on IR) I think Henderson is the odd man out. I will miss him though. I always liked him and respected how he continued to improve regardless of how people including Saints fans bashed him. Remember when he could burn any and every DB when he first started but had cinder blocks for hands then all of a sudden they were like super glue? That was so great. If their willing to keep him and he's willing to get paid much less I'm all for it. But I would be supportive of him if he finds a team that he can be a major part of. If I may ask, what would you keep him for? He is a specialized receiver as you pointed out and has lost that speed. What position on the 53 would you sacrifice for a reciever with not a whole lot of upside at this point in his career? Do we need 7 WRs (based off of 2012)?

02-13-2013, 11:18 AM	#4
NuNu318 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: VA Posts: 465	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson Originally Posted by TheOak If I may ask, what would you keep him for? He is a specialized receiver as you pointed out and has lost that speed. What position on the 53 would you sacrifice for a reciever with not a whole lot of upside at this point in his career? Do we need 7 WRs (based off of 2012)? If anything he would serve as experieced depth.Much like say a Donald Driver or Hines Ward did for a yr or 2 before they finally retired. Just in case someone does go down in the offseason or during the season you have someone there that knows the offense like the back of his hand and even though he has lost a step can still contribute somewhat. Like I said though it would have to be a dirt cheap contract. But because he's been a great player for us for the most part. I wouldn't mind keeping him if they can find a use for him and he's good with that. I compare him to a Donald Driver Hines Ward type because I think he's the type that would take the much lesser role to retire with the team he started with. And if they can sacrifice a roster spot for Cadet like they did last season I'm pretty sure they can find space for Devery. Crusader and ClintSaints like this.

02-13-2013, 10:26 AM	#5
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson Vets minimum this year with 7-9 years service is around $840,000. If Devery would play for that with incentive bonuses added, I would re-signed him. Be one hell of a 5 wide set, Colston, Moore, Toon or Morgan, Graham and Devery. 2 speedsters on the outside with possession guys in the middle. You think Payton has that play drawn up with his time off last season?

02-13-2013, 11:07 AM	#6
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson Devery has always been my favorite Saints receiver, but it is painfully obvious to me he is done as a Saint. Watching him decline in 2012 for whatever reason was hard. I wish Devery nothing but the best, and I really hope he keeps playing but outside the division. ClintSaints likes this.

02-13-2013, 11:20 AM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson I don't know that he has diminished so much as I think we may have problems paying the man. Personally I'd love to keep him on if possible (or unless someone beats him out in camp). ClintSaints likes this.

02-13-2013, 11:21 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson If we have any money left over after we sign defensive free-agents, Bushrod and DLP then I'm all for re-signing Devery, right after Chris Ivory. TheOak likes this.

02-13-2013, 11:22 AM	#9
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,754	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson Won't hold the drops from last year against him as that seemed to be a problem with the whole team. That said. At his age and probable salary, given the team's cap issues, I don't think he's brought back. Congrats though Devery! Louisiana native who won a National Championship with LSU and a Superbowl with the Saints. What more could you ask for? lynwood and ClintSaints like this.

02-13-2013, 11:40 AM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: New Orleans Saints unlikely to re-sign Devery Henderson Originally Posted by stickman Won't hold the drops from last year against him as that seemed to be a problem with the whole team. Except Lance Moore

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