Is Hartley The Man?

FinSaint · 02-14-2013, 03:51 PM

Well rookie kickers did pretty well for themselves this past season - Walsh for the Vikes on the forefront - so I guess the question is if you can find a rookie kicker in the later rounds who'd be cheap and as effective as Hartley.

It's all about the Benjamins...

Danno · 02-14-2013, 05:08 PM

His current performance is simply adequate.

triman · 02-14-2013, 05:22 PM

All for bringing. another in and may the best. WIN.

saintfan · 02-14-2013, 05:34 PM

I'm willing to try out. I'm good from 10 yards on in...

Seer1 · 02-14-2013, 06:01 PM

He does make me nervous, but it seems like Sean really likes him. That and with all the other things for Sean to figure out, I see him here for this year at least.

halloween 65 · 02-14-2013, 06:20 PM

I like Hartley but as it goes I believe in competition is the only thing that makes teams better, bring them in I would say.

The Dude · 02-15-2013, 12:28 AM

I don't like him. I don't think he mentally has what it takes. The only problem is there isn't anyone else out there we could get who wouldn't be as big of a risk. Yea he got us through the SB but that was then this is now. You can only go so far off of one kick. Superbowl aside one can argue that he has lost more games than won for us. I wish we could get someone better but I don't see it happening. I agree he scares the hell out of me and if the game is on the line I have absolutely 0 confidence in him. Especially on the chip shots. Not a chance in hell do I waste a draft pick on a kicker. I would be livid with all the other holes we have.

Turbo Saint · 02-15-2013, 01:03 AM

NO, he's not the man. We can easily do better in UFAs.

Budsdrinker · 02-15-2013, 08:13 AM

If Santos from Tulane doesn't get drafted, I would bring him in as a UDFA.
He's use to kicking in the dome and didn't miss a kick last year which included several +50 but I would not draft a kicker. Too many other needs.

Beastmode · 02-15-2013, 08:42 AM

He's good enough. My thing on kickers is if the game is in their hands there's plenty of blame to go around for even being in that position. Case in point, Anderson was one of the greatest of all time yet we NEVER won a playoff game. Even if Hartley was 100% this past season it would not have mattered. We lost 7 game by more than 3 points. Almost half the games he had no impact.

02-14-2013, 03:51 PM	#11
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Is Hartley The Man? Well rookie kickers did pretty well for themselves this past season - Walsh for the Vikes on the forefront - so I guess the question is if you can find a rookie kicker in the later rounds who'd be cheap and as effective as Hartley. It's all about the Benjamins... Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-14-2013, 05:08 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Is Hartley The Man? His current performance is simply adequate.

02-14-2013, 05:22 PM	#13
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Is Hartley The Man? All for bringing. another in and may the best. WIN. lumm0x likes this.
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02-14-2013, 05:34 PM	#14
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is Hartley The Man? I'm willing to try out. I'm good from 10 yards on in... Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-14-2013, 06:01 PM	#15
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Is Hartley The Man? He does make me nervous, but it seems like Sean really likes him. That and with all the other things for Sean to figure out, I see him here for this year at least.

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02-14-2013, 06:20 PM	#16
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Is Hartley The Man? I like Hartley but as it goes I believe in competition is the only thing that makes teams better, bring them in I would say.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Is Hartley The Man? I don't like him. I don't think he mentally has what it takes. The only problem is there isn't anyone else out there we could get who wouldn't be as big of a risk. Yea he got us through the SB but that was then this is now. You can only go so far off of one kick. Superbowl aside one can argue that he has lost more games than won for us. I wish we could get someone better but I don't see it happening. I agree he scares the hell out of me and if the game is on the line I have absolutely 0 confidence in him. Especially on the chip shots. Not a chance in hell do I waste a draft pick on a kicker. I would be livid with all the other holes we have.
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02-15-2013, 01:03 AM	#18
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Is Hartley The Man? NO, he's not the man. We can easily do better in UFAs.

02-15-2013, 08:13 AM	#19
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Is Hartley The Man? If Santos from Tulane doesn't get drafted, I would bring him in as a UDFA. He's use to kicking in the dome and didn't miss a kick last year which included several +50 but I would not draft a kicker. Too many other needs.

02-15-2013, 08:42 AM	#20
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Is Hartley The Man? He's good enough. My thing on kickers is if the game is in their hands there's plenty of blame to go around for even being in that position. Case in point, Anderson was one of the greatest of all time yet we NEVER won a playoff game. Even if Hartley was 100% this past season it would not have mattered. We lost 7 game by more than 3 points. Almost half the games he had no impact. jnormand and Seer1 like this.
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