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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by pherein I just dont understand some things. For one Meachem wasnt a bust in the end. Neither was Bushrod or Arrington. Their not proballers but they donrt completely suck. And if your going to take the draft ...

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Old 02-21-2013, 11:28 AM   #1
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

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I just dont understand some things. For one Meachem wasnt a bust in the end. Neither was Bushrod or Arrington. Their not proballers but they donrt completely suck.
And if your going to take the draft into accout, you have to take the entire draft. You cant just pick and choose what you might think to be the bad side.

What about Lance Moore, P. Thomas ? I mean the undrafted are just as important as the draft. Just a thought.
True, I usually do consider UDFA as part of the draft process. I was reponding to a claim that we do much better in later rounds, so I looked and saw that we haven't.

I'm not sure I'd consider AA as a success. He never really got there.

I should have included Bushrod.

Meachem was OK. I just highlited the obvious winners we drafted.

Either way, that list looks a lot worse than I thought it would when I pulled it up.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:48 AM   #2
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Re: Are Loomis /Payton as good as their draft reputation?

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True, I usually do consider UDFA as part of the draft process. I was reponding to a claim that we do much better in later rounds, so I looked and saw that we haven't.

I'm not sure I'd consider AA as a success. He never really got there.

I should have included Bushrod.

Meachem was OK. I just highlited the obvious winners we drafted.

Either way, that list looks a lot worse than I thought it would when I pulled it up.
Yeah, I think you have to look at UDFA, because we draft based on BPA, and know the undrafted that will be available, but target them quickly, call them the next day, and get them in here to try out. Most team would kill for a Moore or Thomas, and they have done a good job keeping them inhouse.

AA is ok. When hes on the field he does great. Problem is keeping him on the field, lol, but the talent is their.

We also have a couple 2011 drafts like Wilson and Romeus that are still in development. So its hard to pin them as a bust just yet. LOL, it took forever to get Meachum to catch the ball, but he eventually did.

Though, I completely admit our defensive drafts have been pretty bad or below average.

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Old 02-21-2013, 11:54 AM   #3
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Yeah, I think you have to look at UDFA, because we draft based on BPA, and know the undrafted that will be available, but target them quickly, call them the next day, and get them in here to try out. Most team would kill for a Moore or Thomas, and they have done a good job keeping them inhouse.

AA is ok. When hes on the field he does great. Problem is keeping him on the field, lol, but the talent is their.

We also have a couple 2011 drafts like Wilson and Romeus that are still in development. So its hard to pin them as a bust just yet. LOL, it took forever to get Meachum to catch the ball, but he eventually did.

Though, I completely admit our defensive drafts have been pretty bad or below average.
And thats all I was really trying to point out. We're just not as good as we (or maybe just me) thought we were.
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