Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes

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One of New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's problems in Dallas apparently was his complex and voluminous defensive schemes, according to Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones.

Was former Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's downfall brought on because he employed too many schemes?

In a story on the Dallas Morning News website, Jones said "too many schemes" caused the Cowboys to remove Ryan and replace him with Monte Kiffin.

"I think Rob is a very smart guy," Jones said told the DMN. "His schemes are very sound. There are a lot of schemes. That becomes a question. We made a tough decision. We felt like too many schemes can cause problems regardless of how good they are and how sound they are. If there is more than the players can digest in this day and time - as you don't keep players for long, they move on and you have injuries - you just had to make a decision. And we made a tough one."

Ryan, the son of legendary coach Buddy Ryan and the twin brother of New York Jets Coach Rex Ryan, was hired by the Saints earlier this month and is being tasked with revamping a defense that yielded 7,042 yards last season, the most in NFL history.

Ryan will bring in his attacking 3-4 scheme, as the Saints transition from the 4-3 defense used under former defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. In two seasons in Dallas, Ryan's defensie ranked 14th in 2011 and 19th last season when the unit was hit hard by injuries.

The loquacious Ryan, who hasn't been made available to the media since his hiring, wasn't available for comment.

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jnormand · 02-21-2013, 04:41 PM

"Schemes"? Sheeeeit. I just hope one of his many "schemes" gets our defense out of the cellar.

Danno · 02-21-2013, 04:43 PM

Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once?

SmashMouth · 02-21-2013, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once?

Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?

Danno · 02-21-2013, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?

LOL!!!

dizzle88 · 02-21-2013, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once?

Yeah he accepted fault for throwing too much at his players at once but said hes learned from that and knows how to better implement a scheme

biloxi-indian · 02-21-2013, 05:03 PM

I hope one of his "schemes" is basic tackling!

NOLA54 · 02-21-2013, 05:05 PM

He was fired because Jery & the boys don't have a clue!!!!

RockyMountainSaint · 02-21-2013, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba?

Xan, break out your red pen!

Shoe. · 02-21-2013, 05:49 PM

As long as Ryan understands that this is basically a hard reboot he's dealing with, and no matter what you're teaching, keeping it simple comes first.

02-21-2013, 04:32 PM	#1
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) One of New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's problems in Dallas apparently was his complex and voluminous defensive schemes, according to Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones. Was former Cowboys defensive coordinator Rob Ryan's downfall brought on because he employed too many schemes? In a story on the Dallas Morning News website, Jones said "too many schemes" caused the Cowboys to remove Ryan and replace him with Monte Kiffin. "I think Rob is a very smart guy," Jones said told the DMN. "His schemes are very sound. There are a lot of schemes. That becomes a question. We made a tough decision. We felt like too many schemes can cause problems regardless of how good they are and how sound they are. If there is more than the players can digest in this day and time - as you don't keep players for long, they move on and you have injuries - you just had to make a decision. And we made a tough one." Ryan, the son of legendary coach Buddy Ryan and the twin brother of New York Jets Coach Rex Ryan, was hired by the Saints earlier this month and is being tasked with revamping a defense that yielded 7,042 yards last season, the most in NFL history. Ryan will bring in his attacking 3-4 scheme, as the Saints transition from the 4-3 defense used under former defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo. In two seasons in Dallas, Ryan's defensie ranked 14th in 2011 and 19th last season when the unit was hit hard by injuries. The loquacious Ryan, who hasn't been made available to the media since his hiring, wasn't available for comment. Link Back Attached Thumbnails Last edited by SmashMouth; 02-21-2013 at 04:43 PM..
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,647	Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes "Schemes"? Sheeeeit. I just hope one of his many "schemes" gets our defense out of the cellar.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once? RockyMountainSaint, dizzle88 and savoyk like this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes Originally Posted by Danno Didn't he admit he threw too much at them all at once? Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba? foreverfan and pumpkindriver like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: Dallas executive says Rob Ryan was fired in Dallas because he used too many schemes Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yes he did.... is he also saying the Cowgirls have the IQ of an ameba? LOL!!! RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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