Jarvis Jones at 15??

saintsfan1976 · 02-23-2013, 07:29 AM

One of the top overall talents in this year's draft could fall due to medical concerns.

Jones has absolutely shredded the SEC for that past two years and could make an immediate impact with Ryan's new defense.

If he's there at 15 would you take him?

Spinal stenosis - MayoClinic.com

Surgical Treatment:
Lumbar Decompressive Laminectomy- Removing the roof of bone overlying the spinal canal and thickened ligaments in order to decompress the nerves and sac of nerves. This procedure is well tolerated in the hands of a skilled neurosurgeon or orthopedic spine trained surgeon. 96% of patients undergoing this procedure report "good results".[15]

hagan714 · 02-23-2013, 07:41 AM

that is a hard pick. talent is there but the red flag is large. if i picked him i would not have any long term plans for the guy. if he makes two years and the trade value is there i would move him.

big risk in my book.

burningmetal · 02-23-2013, 08:08 AM

He is the best possible player the Saints could get, ability-wise. That's the guy I want. But there is that risk.

The Spinal Stenosis was discovered during his freshman year, when he was at Southern Cal, and he had to transfer to Georgia after the USC medical staff wouldn't clear him to play. So, considering he has played this well WITH the condition, I think he'll be fine with successful surgery.

There is the holdup, though. He hasn't had the surgery yet, so we don't know how that's gonna play out. In fact, I haven't been able to find any information on whether or not he even plans on having the surgery done.

He'd be really hard to pass on, either way.

xan · 02-23-2013, 08:24 AM

SC staff are fraidy-cats, but knowing a bit about his condition, no way in hell.

ChrisXVI · 02-23-2013, 08:43 AM

I love the guy... Even knowing about his medical condition if we picked him come April I'd be jumping for joy. However, that wouldn't be thinking long-term and I admit that I have a bad habit of looking for instant impact instead of great long-term investments.

Danno · 02-23-2013, 08:45 AM

So I guess the question is, is it worth a 15th pick if we only get 4 or 5 solid years out of him?

jcp026 · 02-23-2013, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

So I guess the question is, is it worth a 15th pick if we only get 4 or 5 solid years out of him?

Drew Brees is already 34 so I think we should ask ourselves, realistically, how big our window is and if Jarvis Jones only has 4 or 5 good years in him, does that maximize our chances of winning it all?

I think our window is 4 or 5 years MAX, and Jones gives us a great chance to get back to the Super Bowl over that time.

ChrisXVI · 02-23-2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by jcp026

Drew Brees is already 34 so I think we should ask ourselves, realistically, how big our window is and if Jarvis Jones only has 4 or 5 good years in him, does that maximize our chances of winning it all?

I think our window is 4 or 5 years MAX, and Jones gives us a great chance to get back to the Super Bowl over that time.

Took the words out of my mouth. Our current team doesn't have much time left to make a real run at the Super Bowl so if we can add a player that can make an instant impact... why not?! We're gonna have to do some major rebuilding in a few years anyway so let's go win it all now!

ChrisXVI · 02-23-2013, 08:55 AM

Definitely a gamble, but we don't really know how long any player's career is going to last. One devestating injury and that's it. I'd take the chance... We've had high draft picks lately that haven't contributed a damn thing and they're healthy!

FinSaint · 02-23-2013, 09:04 AM

Having a genetic spinal issue myself... I'd err on the side of caution when it comes to these types of situations, so I would probably vote for pass if I had a vote.

02-23-2013, 07:29 AM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Jarvis Jones at 15?? One of the top overall talents in this year's draft could fall due to medical concerns. Jones has absolutely shredded the SEC for that past two years and could make an immediate impact with Ryan's new defense. If he's there at 15 would you take him? Spinal stenosis - MayoClinic.com Surgical Treatment: Lumbar Decompressive Laminectomy- Removing the roof of bone overlying the spinal canal and thickened ligaments in order to decompress the nerves and sac of nerves. This procedure is well tolerated in the hands of a skilled neurosurgeon or orthopedic spine trained surgeon. 96% of patients undergoing this procedure report "good results".[15] jcp026 likes this.

02-23-2013, 07:41 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? that is a hard pick. talent is there but the red flag is large. if i picked him i would not have any long term plans for the guy. if he makes two years and the trade value is there i would move him. big risk in my book. SloMotion likes this.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? He is the best possible player the Saints could get, ability-wise. That's the guy I want. But there is that risk. The Spinal Stenosis was discovered during his freshman year, when he was at Southern Cal, and he had to transfer to Georgia after the USC medical staff wouldn't clear him to play. So, considering he has played this well WITH the condition, I think he'll be fine with successful surgery. There is the holdup, though. He hasn't had the surgery yet, so we don't know how that's gonna play out. In fact, I haven't been able to find any information on whether or not he even plans on having the surgery done. He'd be really hard to pass on, either way.
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02-23-2013, 08:24 AM	#4
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? SC staff are fraidy-cats, but knowing a bit about his condition, no way in hell.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? I love the guy... Even knowing about his medical condition if we picked him come April I'd be jumping for joy. However, that wouldn't be thinking long-term and I admit that I have a bad habit of looking for instant impact instead of great long-term investments.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? So I guess the question is, is it worth a 15th pick if we only get 4 or 5 solid years out of him?

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jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 952	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? Originally Posted by Danno So I guess the question is, is it worth a 15th pick if we only get 4 or 5 solid years out of him? Drew Brees is already 34 so I think we should ask ourselves, realistically, how big our window is and if Jarvis Jones only has 4 or 5 good years in him, does that maximize our chances of winning it all? I think our window is 4 or 5 years MAX, and Jones gives us a great chance to get back to the Super Bowl over that time. papz and ChrisXVI like this.
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02-23-2013, 10:03 AM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? Originally Posted by jcp026 Drew Brees is already 34 so I think we should ask ourselves, realistically, how big our window is and if Jarvis Jones only has 4 or 5 good years in him, does that maximize our chances of winning it all? I think our window is 4 or 5 years MAX, and Jones gives us a great chance to get back to the Super Bowl over that time. Took the words out of my mouth. Our current team doesn't have much time left to make a real run at the Super Bowl so if we can add a player that can make an instant impact... why not?! We're gonna have to do some major rebuilding in a few years anyway so let's go win it all now!

02-23-2013, 08:55 AM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? Definitely a gamble, but we don't really know how long any player's career is going to last. One devestating injury and that's it. I'd take the chance... We've had high draft picks lately that haven't contributed a damn thing and they're healthy!

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? Having a genetic spinal issue myself... I'd err on the side of caution when it comes to these types of situations, so I would probably vote for pass if I had a vote.

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