Jarvis Jones at 15??

CharityMike · 02-23-2013, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its still sounds like a pretty serious issue to me.

But like with ANY illness that can have numerous side effects, doesn't mean he has them all. We have no clue how severe it is. Will it shorten his playing career, YES. We have a long time to worry about that. If he is there at 15, we take him!

Rugby Saint II · 02-23-2013, 11:58 PM

Play the man!!!

burningmetal · 02-24-2013, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Where did anyone get spinal surgery?? Spinal Stenosis is a fancy medical term for Arthritis in the back. I know this because I have it along with a long list of other back issues. There is no surgical fix for this.

We would be crazy not to snatch this guy up. Will he play 10 yrs in the NFL, probably not. His back condition will get worse as he gets older. But for right now, he'd be a steal at 15!

There is an article that clearly says you can get surgery to widen the space between the vertebrae and the nerves. Most people don't have the money for that, but Jarvis will pretty soon. Surgery has been highly successful according to that article, but obviously it's no guarantee.

It's more complicated than just arthritis. Arthritis, of course, is chronic inflammation, and you can treat it, but you can't really stop it as far as I know. Some form of arthritis leads to the narrowing of space with Stenosis, and when those nerves are being squeezed it causes far more problems than just pain. But if he can get that procedure done, it should hopefully lengthen his career.

I'm no doctor, I'm just going on what information I can gather. But I'm weighing the upside verses the risk, and I still think we have to take him if he falls. I really doubt he falls that far, though.

TheOak · 02-24-2013, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Where did anyone get spinal surgery?? Spinal Stenosis is a fancy medical term for Arthritis in the back. I know this because I have it along with a long list of other back issues. There is no surgical fix for this.

We would be crazy not to snatch this guy up. Will he play 10 yrs in the NFL, probably not. His back condition will get worse as he gets older. But for right now, he'd be a steal at 15!

How many qtrs can you go, full speed? I'm just trying to get a reference point.

I don't have it and doubt I could last a qtr.

saintsfan1976 · 02-24-2013, 09:10 AM

So the kid is advised to leave the game and instead he plays two years of lights out football at an aggressive position in one of the top defenses last year in the toughest conference in college football.

With no ill affects.

I'd grab him at 15.

triman · 02-24-2013, 11:46 AM

It hasn't seemed to affect him so far.

4everSaint · 02-24-2013, 01:22 PM

Whether we take him or not. I just hope the young man makes the right decision for his long term health. I love the Saints but not at the risk of someone playing football when maybe they shouldn't.

Danno · 02-24-2013, 02:41 PM

There are better options

CharityMike · 02-24-2013, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

How many qtrs can you go, full speed? I'm just trying to get a reference point.

I don't have it and doubt I could last a qtr.

Well i'm 40 and how old is he? From whats been said, he has spinal stenosis.
I have that and disk degeneration disease, 4 bulging disks, narrowing of the facet joints and arthritis all through out the lower back. So maybe a qtr

TheOak · 02-24-2013, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Well i'm 40 and how old is he? From whats been said, he has spinal stenosis.
I have that and disk degeneration disease, 4 bulging disks, narrowing of the facet joints and arthritis all through out the lower back. So maybe a qtr

Cool! Ill make sure there are two oxygen tanks at the 1/8th.

02-23-2013, 07:37 PM	#31
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? Originally Posted by Danno Its still sounds like a pretty serious issue to me. But like with ANY illness that can have numerous side effects, doesn't mean he has them all. We have no clue how severe it is. Will it shorten his playing career, YES. We have a long time to worry about that. If he is there at 15, we take him!

02-23-2013, 11:58 PM	#32
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02-24-2013, 04:47 AM	#33
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? Originally Posted by CharityMike Where did anyone get spinal surgery?? Spinal Stenosis is a fancy medical term for Arthritis in the back. I know this because I have it along with a long list of other back issues. There is no surgical fix for this. We would be crazy not to snatch this guy up. Will he play 10 yrs in the NFL, probably not. His back condition will get worse as he gets older. But for right now, he'd be a steal at 15! There is an article that clearly says you can get surgery to widen the space between the vertebrae and the nerves. Most people don't have the money for that, but Jarvis will pretty soon. Surgery has been highly successful according to that article, but obviously it's no guarantee. It's more complicated than just arthritis. Arthritis, of course, is chronic inflammation, and you can treat it, but you can't really stop it as far as I know. Some form of arthritis leads to the narrowing of space with Stenosis, and when those nerves are being squeezed it causes far more problems than just pain. But if he can get that procedure done, it should hopefully lengthen his career. I'm no doctor, I'm just going on what information I can gather. But I'm weighing the upside verses the risk, and I still think we have to take him if he falls. I really doubt he falls that far, though.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

02-24-2013, 07:03 AM	#34
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by CharityMike Where did anyone get spinal surgery?? Spinal Stenosis is a fancy medical term for Arthritis in the back. I know this because I have it along with a long list of other back issues. There is no surgical fix for this. We would be crazy not to snatch this guy up. Will he play 10 yrs in the NFL, probably not. His back condition will get worse as he gets older. But for right now, he'd be a steal at 15! How many qtrs can you go, full speed? I'm just trying to get a reference point. I don't have it and doubt I could last a qtr.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Jarvis Jones at 15?? Originally Posted by TheOak How many qtrs can you go, full speed? I'm just trying to get a reference point. I don't have it and doubt I could last a qtr. Well i'm 40 and how old is he? From whats been said, he has spinal stenosis. I have that and disk degeneration disease, 4 bulging disks, narrowing of the facet joints and arthritis all through out the lower back. So maybe a qtr

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Originally Posted by CharityMike Well i'm 40 and how old is he? From whats been said, he has spinal stenosis. I have that and disk degeneration disease, 4 bulging disks, narrowing of the facet joints and arthritis all through out the lower back. So maybe a qtr Cool! Ill make sure there are two oxygen tanks at the 1/8th. hagan714 and CharityMike like this.

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