Kristian: Restructure Brees? Not so simple, and awfully risky

02-24-2013, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

What is the alternative? Chase Daniels @ 2m a year? People would rather that? We could cut Drew and pick up Sanchez for cheap.

In this league your either a have or a have not. You either have a Brady/Brees/Manning/Rogers or you are trying to get one.

I have no problem with the guy who touches the ball most (not the center) being the highest paid.

As for "greedy" players wanting too much money - think about how much the NFL makes off them and their success.

And then think about guys like Marcus Lattimore.

TheOak · 02-24-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I have no problem with the guy who touches the ball most (not the center) being the highest paid.

As for "greedy" players wanting too much money - think about how much the NFL makes off them and their success.

And then think about guys like Marcus Lattimore.

Look up Goodells 2012 salary. I do believe its in the 15-18 million range.

saintsfan1976 · 02-24-2013, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Look up Goodells 2012 salary. I do believe its in the 15-18 million range.

And he's arguably brought more money to the owners than any other commissioner. Right?

Probably why we didn't have too many owners step up in support of Tom Benson during the "bounty" "scandal" aka nigh-f'n-mare season.

TheOak · 02-24-2013, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And he's arguably brought more money to the owners than any other commissioner. Right?

Probably why we didn't have too many owners step up in support of Tom Benson during the "bounty" "scandal" aka nigh-f'n-mare season.

The NFL is a huge marketing machine. Would I say the NFL has seen larger revenues under Goodell? Yes

Because of Goodell? No

however CEOs reap the benefit or punishment of things that happen during their tenure, regardless of who actually did it.

saintsfan1976 · 02-24-2013, 10:39 AM

Yeah you right!

Jamessr · 02-24-2013, 11:33 AM

I get the whole Brees/Manning/Rogers/Brady talk...
What I don't like it last year we lost Carl Nicks. Who will it be this year? Heck Jimmy Graham next year?
Ofcourse I like having one of the top QB's playing but we're losing talent around him too. Im worried that the defense will still stink and the O Line will make Brees look like Cutler....
Then what the hell is a 100 million QB worth if you don't have talent around him?
Other issues I have is wtf are we paying Harper and Smith close to 7 and 12 million a year? You gotta be kidding me...
Both of those guys should have been released.

TheOak · 02-24-2013, 11:41 AM

2 mil separates Brees from Manning. How does Denver do it?

Ashley · 02-24-2013, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

I was against his greedy contract from day MINUS ONE.

It is the kiss of death of any team. Just ask him.

Everyone has to suffer except DREW. Makes me sick.

Alaska

I was too Alaska, it was insane we made two offers to him that he turned down before he signed. Those were going to make him the highest paid at that time. I do believe he deserves every penny of it. But come on it will kill us and it is starting to show now. Live and die with Brees
I have said before I am a Saint fan, players come and go. His greed will have him running for his life this year.

K Major · 02-24-2013, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I get the whole Brees/Manning/Rogers/Brady talk...
What I don't like it last year we lost Carl Nicks. Who will it be this year? Heck Jimmy Graham next year?
Ofcourse I like having one of the top QB's playing but we're losing talent around him too. Im worried that the defense will still stink and the O Line will make Brees look like Cutler....
Then what the hell is a 100 million QB worth if you don't have talent around him?
Other issues I have is wtf are we paying Harper and Smith close to 7 and 12 million a year? You gotta be kidding me...
Both of those guys should have been released.

+1

AlaskaSaints · 02-24-2013, 06:23 PM

Offense wins GAMES.
Defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS.

We spent our wad on offense so we set records every year.

Our defense set records last year as well... ;-/

Alaska

02-24-2013, 10:02 AM	#11
Threaded by saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by TheOak What is the alternative? Chase Daniels @ 2m a year? People would rather that? We could cut Drew and pick up Sanchez for cheap. In this league your either a have or a have not. You either have a Brady/Brees/Manning/Rogers or you are trying to get one. I have no problem with the guy who touches the ball most (not the center) being the highest paid. As for "greedy" players wanting too much money - think about how much the NFL makes off them and their success. And then think about guys like Marcus Lattimore.
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02-24-2013, 10:06 AM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I have no problem with the guy who touches the ball most (not the center) being the highest paid. As for "greedy" players wanting too much money - think about how much the NFL makes off them and their success. And then think about guys like Marcus Lattimore. Look up Goodells 2012 salary. I do believe its in the 15-18 million range. saintsfan1976 likes this.

02-24-2013, 10:09 AM	#13
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kristian: Restructure Brees? Not so simple, and awfully risky Originally Posted by TheOak Look up Goodells 2012 salary. I do believe its in the 15-18 million range. And he's arguably brought more money to the owners than any other commissioner. Right? Probably why we didn't have too many owners step up in support of Tom Benson during the "bounty" "scandal" aka nigh-f'n-mare season.

02-24-2013, 10:35 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And he's arguably brought more money to the owners than any other commissioner. Right? Probably why we didn't have too many owners step up in support of Tom Benson during the "bounty" "scandal" aka nigh-f'n-mare season. The NFL is a huge marketing machine. Would I say the NFL has seen larger revenues under Goodell? Yes Because of Goodell? No however CEOs reap the benefit or punishment of things that happen during their tenure, regardless of who actually did it.

02-24-2013, 10:39 AM	#15
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kristian: Restructure Brees? Not so simple, and awfully risky Yeah you right!

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02-24-2013, 11:33 AM	#16
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Kristian: Restructure Brees? Not so simple, and awfully risky I get the whole Brees/Manning/Rogers/Brady talk... What I don't like it last year we lost Carl Nicks. Who will it be this year? Heck Jimmy Graham next year? Ofcourse I like having one of the top QB's playing but we're losing talent around him too. Im worried that the defense will still stink and the O Line will make Brees look like Cutler.... Then what the hell is a 100 million QB worth if you don't have talent around him? Other issues I have is wtf are we paying Harper and Smith close to 7 and 12 million a year? You gotta be kidding me... Both of those guys should have been released. K Major likes this.
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02-24-2013, 11:41 AM	#17
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	2 mil separates Brees from Manning. How does Denver do it?

02-24-2013, 12:21 PM	#18
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Kristian: Restructure Brees? Not so simple, and awfully risky Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints I was against his greedy contract from day MINUS ONE. It is the kiss of death of any team. Just ask him. Everyone has to suffer except DREW. Makes me sick. Alaska I was too Alaska, it was insane we made two offers to him that he turned down before he signed. Those were going to make him the highest paid at that time. I do believe he deserves every penny of it. But come on it will kill us and it is starting to show now. Live and die with Brees I have said before I am a Saint fan, players come and go. His greed will have him running for his life this year.

02-24-2013, 02:10 PM	#19
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Kristian: Restructure Brees? Not so simple, and awfully risky Originally Posted by Jamessr I get the whole Brees/Manning/Rogers/Brady talk... What I don't like it last year we lost Carl Nicks. Who will it be this year? Heck Jimmy Graham next year? Ofcourse I like having one of the top QB's playing but we're losing talent around him too. Im worried that the defense will still stink and the O Line will make Brees look like Cutler.... Then what the hell is a 100 million QB worth if you don't have talent around him? Other issues I have is wtf are we paying Harper and Smith close to 7 and 12 million a year? You gotta be kidding me... Both of those guys should have been released. +1

02-24-2013, 06:23 PM	#20
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Kristian: Restructure Brees? Not so simple, and awfully risky Offense wins GAMES. Defense wins CHAMPIONSHIPS. We spent our wad on offense so we set records every year. Our defense set records last year as well... ;-/ Alaska

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