Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2013, 07:31 PM

The New Orleans Saints likely will release one or more veteran defensive players before the start of the NFL's free-agent signing period March 12. And they must add at least two or three impact players in free agency and the draft.

New Orleans Saints defensive end Cameron Jordan celebrates a 6-yard sack on the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan at the Georgia Dome on November 29, 2012. (Photo by Michael DeMocker, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune)
But before that makeover begins, here is my assessment of the players on the current roster. Players are listed in order of their talent level heading into the 2013 season:

Breaking down the New Orleans Saints' defensive talent | NOLA.com

Seer1 · 02-26-2013, 08:07 PM

Did he mean to say, "Broken down New Orleans Saints' defensive talent?"

|Mitch| · 02-26-2013, 08:23 PM

Very good assesment of our players!

CharityMike · 02-26-2013, 08:22 PM

Pretty solid piece of work. My only disagreement would be, I think he is wrong about Quddus. He seemed to show more promise as an actual safety than Harper ever did. IMO

Danno · 02-26-2013, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Pretty solid piece of work. My only disagreement would be, I think he is wrong about Quddus. He seemed to show more promise as an actual safety than Harper ever did. IMO

Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety.

IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown.

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2013, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety.

IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown.

I don't think Q can play in the box like Harper either. Dude needs like three necks to measure up to harp.

blackangold · 02-26-2013, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety.

IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown.

Harper went due to his blitzing ability... he has never been a cover safety of any kind, you know this. i would be singing Harper's praises if he were 30lbs heavier and playing LB, but in reality he is nothing more than a liability in coverage.

K Major · 02-27-2013, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Harper went due to his blitzing ability... he has never been a cover safety of any kind, you know this. i would be singing Harper's praises if he were 30lbs heavier and playing LB, but in reality he is nothing more than a liability in coverage.

+1. The guy sucks at his position. Time to cut bait, and move on.

burningmetal · 02-27-2013, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety.

IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown.

This again? Two pro bowls because of sacks. Not because of how well he actually performed at his position. It was a joke that he was ever named a pro bowler. To each his own opinion (even if I completely disagree), but I won't be sad when they cut him. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but man, it's time to shed some weight.

blackangold · 02-26-2013, 09:28 PM

dislike his ratings... he still has the old school mentality that many on this forum carry. Some of the Vets we have need to be released not only for the cap but simply because we are RE-BUILDING. Harper and Smith cuts alone save 16 mil for the cap. If we keep starting the old vets like Smith and Harper we will be looking for the replacements next year or the year after, we will constantly be re-building. We need younger, raw and coach-able new talent.

He says "Smith is no-longer an explosive pass rusher"... when was he? 13.5 sacks being the highest sack season on his books is shameful for a DE getting paid what he has been. Saying he would be worth it for 6m a year is BS. Cut him, Hicks is the best fit for the open DE spot.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,016 Blog Entries: 3	Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent The New Orleans Saints likely will release one or more veteran defensive players before the start of the NFL's free-agent signing period March 12. And they must add at least two or three impact players in free agency and the draft. New Orleans Saints defensive end Cameron Jordan celebrates a 6-yard sack on the Atlanta Falcons' Matt Ryan at the Georgia Dome on November 29, 2012. (Photo by Michael DeMocker, NOLA.com \| The Times-Picayune) But before that makeover begins, here is my assessment of the players on the current roster. Players are listed in order of their talent level heading into the 2013 season: Breaking down the New Orleans Saints' defensive talent \| NOLA.com Attached Thumbnails
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02-26-2013, 08:07 PM	#2
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Did he mean to say, "Broken down New Orleans Saints' defensive talent?"

02-26-2013, 08:23 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Very good assesment of our players!

02-26-2013, 08:22 PM	#4
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Pretty solid piece of work. My only disagreement would be, I think he is wrong about Quddus. He seemed to show more promise as an actual safety than Harper ever did. IMO

02-26-2013, 08:25 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Originally Posted by CharityMike Pretty solid piece of work. My only disagreement would be, I think he is wrong about Quddus. He seemed to show more promise as an actual safety than Harper ever did. IMO Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety. IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown. dizzle88 likes this.

02-26-2013, 09:31 PM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,016 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Originally Posted by Danno Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety. IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown. I don't think Q can play in the box like Harper either. Dude needs like three necks to measure up to harp.

02-26-2013, 09:31 PM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Originally Posted by Danno Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety. IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown. Harper went due to his blitzing ability... he has never been a cover safety of any kind, you know this. i would be singing Harper's praises if he were 30lbs heavier and playing LB, but in reality he is nothing more than a liability in coverage. CharityMike, Joker and K Major like this.

02-27-2013, 08:11 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,826 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Originally Posted by blackangold Harper went due to his blitzing ability... he has never been a cover safety of any kind, you know this. i would be singing Harper's praises if he were 30lbs heavier and playing LB, but in reality he is nothing more than a liability in coverage. +1. The guy sucks at his position. Time to cut bait, and move on.

02-27-2013, 05:15 AM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent Originally Posted by Danno Harper went to the pro bowl twice and under Gregg Williams was an upper tier safety. IAQ is promising, but he hasn't shown squat compared to what Roman Harper has shown. This again? Two pro bowls because of sacks. Not because of how well he actually performed at his position. It was a joke that he was ever named a pro bowler. To each his own opinion (even if I completely disagree), but I won't be sad when they cut him. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but man, it's time to shed some weight. K Major likes this.

02-26-2013, 09:28 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent dislike his ratings... he still has the old school mentality that many on this forum carry. Some of the Vets we have need to be released not only for the cap but simply because we are RE-BUILDING. Harper and Smith cuts alone save 16 mil for the cap. If we keep starting the old vets like Smith and Harper we will be looking for the replacements next year or the year after, we will constantly be re-building. We need younger, raw and coach-able new talent. He says "Smith is no-longer an explosive pass rusher"... when was he? 13.5 sacks being the highest sack season on his books is shameful for a DE getting paid what he has been. Saying he would be worth it for 6m a year is BS. Cut him, Hicks is the best fit for the open DE spot. Joker and K Major like this.

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