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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; " WHAT THE SAINTS SHOULD DO IN FREE AGENCY" 1. Trade Roman Harper to Titans "i know Greg Williams would want him". Maybe we get a 3rd rd pick settle up to any cause your adding by subtracting here to ...
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02-27-2013, 12:08 AM | #11 |
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" WHAT THE SAINTS SHOULD DO IN FREE AGENCY"
1. Trade Roman Harper to Titans "i know Greg Williams would want him". Maybe we get a 3rd rd pick settle up to any cause your adding by subtracting here to begin with cause what his cap number is."save 5 mil on books and 3 or 4 in cap space. 2.SEE FIRST IF YOU CAN GET THE VALUE FOR MARK INGRAM and if you can get a 1st rd or a 2 and a 3 for him if so cause of a weak skilled position draft trade him. NEED PICKS MORE WE HAVE A GLUT OF BACKS 3 NOW EXTEND CHRIS IVORY i believe he's more impactfull than Ingram and probably cheaper., 4.Sign some Good Hard Nose Defenders "NOT OVERRATED HIGH DOLLAR FA" Abroyo Franklin or David Hawthorne i hope he can shake back. 5 DRAFT SUREFIRE STARTERS doesn't matter really as long as u address pass rush, nose tackle, safety and corner. NOW USE THE EXTRA PICKS ON BEST VALUE AVAILABLE TE, or TACKLE and WR |
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02-27-2013, 06:03 AM | #13 |
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Out of the main cut-candidate trio, I would most like to see Harper continue with the team, but all probably still have something to offer to the team - not just enough to justify their salaries at the moment.
I think Chamberlain is one player that most are undervaluing - and for a reason since he didn't see any actual playing time last season because of his injury in the preseason - but I think he can be a real asset for the Saints since he has the skill-set to play virtually any of the LB positions other than the rushing OLB. Placing him next to someone like Lofton in the middle would be intriguing since he used to be a safety in college. And I've actually wondered if he could replace Harper as the SS - he has almost 40 lbs on Harper, but he definitely has better coverage skills and their on-the-field speeds are probably about the same at this point in their careers. Will Herring is another guy who might prove to be worth more than most (including myself) fans are giving him credit for. He had those injury problems the first year he was with the Saints, and it's really difficult to evaluate his play based on the limited playing time he saw with Spags. My point is that since the Saints will undoubtedly be using a hybrid base scheme of both 3-4 and 4-3 - versatile (and fairly affordable) players like Chamberlain and Herring might prove to be real assets going forward. |
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02-27-2013, 06:15 AM | #14 |
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This again? Two pro bowls because of sacks. Not because of how well he actually performed at his position. It was a joke that he was ever named a pro bowler. To each his own opinion (even if I completely disagree), but I won't be sad when they cut him. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but man, it's time to shed some weight.
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02-27-2013, 07:08 AM | #15 |
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I quite hopeful that with a couple of additions the defence could become a middle of the pack(18/25) next year.
Front 3 Bunkley Hicks Jordan Johnson I'd like either a veteran or rookie NT brought in to compete with Bunkley.I would be opposed to trading him for player/picks either.Somebody like Knighton/Franklin in FA as backup/rotation,or a rookie.Or both and trade Bunkley,though I think the change to 3-4 suits him. FA DT Samie Lee Hill Alan Branch Ricky Jean-Francois Need back up for Hicks/Jordan.Smith might be a decent option if he vastly reduces his numbers $14ml is way to high and unless its a third of that number its too high IMO. LB Lofton Chamberlain Hawthorne Wilson Galette Herring Vilma Not much above average in that group for me(apart from Lofton).No trade value either but all should hopefully be better fits in the new 3-4.Big seasons for Galette and Wilsom. Like Smith Vilma's cap number need reduced significantly for him to stay.Wouldn't want to loose him as a leader but the money can be better spent on a healthy/younger player who is a better fit for a 3-4. I'd like Casillas re-signed for depth. OLB needed in the draft or FA if cap can be reduced.Im not sure about Ansah in the draft as a OLB,seems a better fit as a DE to me.I don't think we have the time to develop him either.Galette can play as a pure pass rusher and bringing Ansah in as a situational rusher doesn't make sense with so much se needed.Not sure if Jordan or Mingo will make it to 15. I still like Ogletree in the draft buf the off field issues are worrying. The Giants are reportedly looking for a ILB and trading back would be good if Jordan and Mi go are gone. Can't say I keen on Anthony Spencer in FA.He never really did much prior to last season and I don't like paying big money on one season production. Kruger would be great but I don't see how the money could be made available. FA Options OLB Philip Wheeler Conor Barwin Daryl Smith Nick Barnett ILB Darnell Elerbe Larry Grant Secondary CB White Mack Greer Robinson S Harper Malcolm Bush IA-Q Really don't know what to think of these lot.Last year was appalling though partly die to the lack of a pass rush. Harpers cap numbers must drop like Vilma and Smiths.If he does stay hopefully he can get back to rushing the passer again as he is terrible in coverage.Wouldn't be unhappy trading him for a 4th rounder. Luckily there is some good depth in the backfield for this years draft. I'd love us to get a pair of big nasty corners. FA vets Grimes DRC Jammer |
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02-27-2013, 09:11 AM | #16 |
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Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent
+1. The guy sucks at his position. Time to cut bait, and move on.
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02-27-2013, 11:51 AM | #17 |
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Broke Down, Broken Down
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02-27-2013, 12:10 PM | #18 |
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As an in the box SS, he does not suck at his position... in fact, he's above average at it. Now if you make him into a coverage safety and take away his position of strength, well then you have an average player.
It's like making a zone corner play bump and run. Asking a run stuffing NT to rush the passer. A scat back to run inbetween tackles. A pocket quarterback to start running. I'm sure you can get the picture. While Harper may not fit the scheme anymore, he does not suck. There's a difference. |
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02-27-2013, 12:20 PM | #19 |
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Re: Breaking Down Saints Defensive Talent
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Yes he does.
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02-27-2013, 12:25 PM | #20 |
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We lack star power on our defense.We need the equivalent of a Rickey Jackson type player. Hopefully we get one in this years draft
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