Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread

Danno · 02-28-2013, 08:52 AM

La Canfora also reported that the Saints have offered new, discounted deals to defensive end Will Smith and linebacker Jonathan Vilma that would allow them to stay.

So they aren't restructures, they're new deals at a lowered amount. I'd imagine they'll do the same with Harper and perhaps Greer?

FinSaint · 02-28-2013, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

So they aren't restructures, they're new deals at a lowered amount. I'd imagine they'll do the same with Harper and perhaps Greer?

Lets just hope that they're severe enough pay cuts , so that if they stay they'll no longer be overpaid ($3M/per) or if they choose not to sign the new contracts they'll end up seeking a new employer at the end of all of this.

Rugby Saint II · 02-28-2013, 02:44 PM

Benson must have figured out that you can't take it with you.

Cruize · 02-28-2013, 02:52 PM

Cut Smith and Vilma and be done with it. Smith would be overpaid at the vet minimum and Vilma just doesn't fit in the 3-4.

Danno · 02-28-2013, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Cut Smith and Vilma and be done with it. Smith would be overpaid at the vet minimum and Vilma just doesn't fit in the 3-4.

What makes you think Vilma doesn't fit in the 3-4?

He's ideal for the WILB spot.

Cruize · 02-28-2013, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

What makes you think Vilma doesn't fit in the 3-4?

The Saints could and have done worse for sure. But, his size, age, injury concerns and large salary are just not a great fit for the team. A 3-4 ILB has to shed blocks well. Vilma doesn't. Not discounting the fact that he brings heart, effort and valuable experience to the table. Give him a shot at the vet minimum with incentives. Otherwise, it's time to move on.

Danno · 02-28-2013, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

The Saints could and have done worse for sure. But, his size, age, injury concerns and large salary are just not a great fit for the team. A 3-4 ILB has to shed blocks well. Vilma doesn't. Not discounting the fact that he brings heart, effort and valuable experience to the table. Give him a shot at the vet minimum with incentives. Otherwise, it's time to move on.

His size is fine, so is his age. We're restructuring his large salary so that probably won't be an issue. The 3-4 WILB isn't any different than a 4-3 WLB so he won't be shedding blocks any more than he did in the 4-3.

Lofton is the one who'll now be taking on the OG's with regularity. I'm more worried about him than Vilma.

The LB best suited for that SILB role is actually Martez Wilson.

Seer1 · 02-28-2013, 06:31 PM

What's the latest with Ellis?

Danno · 02-28-2013, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

What's the latest with Ellis?

He just bought a Ferrarri.

Seer1 · 02-28-2013, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He just bought a Ferrarri.

Now maybe he'll be able to catch a quarterback.

02-28-2013, 08:52 AM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread La Canfora also reported that the Saints have offered new, discounted deals to defensive end Will Smith and linebacker Jonathan Vilma that would allow them to stay. So they aren't restructures, they're new deals at a lowered amount. I'd imagine they'll do the same with Harper and perhaps Greer? RockyMountainSaint likes this.

02-28-2013, 09:02 AM	#22
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread Originally Posted by Danno So they aren't restructures, they're new deals at a lowered amount. I'd imagine they'll do the same with Harper and perhaps Greer? Lets just hope that they're severe enough pay cuts , so that if they stay they'll no longer be overpaid ($3M/per) or if they choose not to sign the new contracts they'll end up seeking a new employer at the end of all of this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread Originally Posted by Cruize Cut Smith and Vilma and be done with it. Smith would be overpaid at the vet minimum and Vilma just doesn't fit in the 3-4. What makes you think Vilma doesn't fit in the 3-4? He's ideal for the WILB spot.

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02-28-2013, 03:20 PM	#26
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread Originally Posted by Danno What makes you think Vilma doesn't fit in the 3-4? The Saints could and have done worse for sure. But, his size, age, injury concerns and large salary are just not a great fit for the team. A 3-4 ILB has to shed blocks well. Vilma doesn't. Not discounting the fact that he brings heart, effort and valuable experience to the table. Give him a shot at the vet minimum with incentives. Otherwise, it's time to move on.
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02-28-2013, 05:45 PM	#27
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread Originally Posted by Cruize The Saints could and have done worse for sure. But, his size, age, injury concerns and large salary are just not a great fit for the team. A 3-4 ILB has to shed blocks well. Vilma doesn't. Not discounting the fact that he brings heart, effort and valuable experience to the table. Give him a shot at the vet minimum with incentives. Otherwise, it's time to move on. His size is fine, so is his age. We're restructuring his large salary so that probably won't be an issue. The 3-4 WILB isn't any different than a 4-3 WLB so he won't be shedding blocks any more than he did in the 4-3. Lofton is the one who'll now be taking on the OG's with regularity. I'm more worried about him than Vilma. The LB best suited for that SILB role is actually Martez Wilson.

02-28-2013, 06:31 PM	#28
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread What's the latest with Ellis?

02-28-2013, 06:47 PM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread Originally Posted by Seer1 What's the latest with Ellis? He just bought a Ferrarri.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Restructuring of Contracts Consequences and Repercussions Thread Originally Posted by Danno He just bought a Ferrarri. Now maybe he'll be able to catch a quarterback.

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