Best GM in football.

D_it_up · 02-28-2013, 07:38 AM

That title has to belong to "Magic" Mickey Loomis. He may not be the best talent evaluator, but he doesn't need to be. The coaching staff and scouts have that under control. However, when it comes to numbers, other GM's should take note of how this guy manipulates the salary cap and makes it his *****. This current string of contract restructuring just solidifies that. Just thought I would get that out there.

saintsfan1976 · 02-28-2013, 07:39 AM

If he was the best, last year would have never happened.

D_it_up · 02-28-2013, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

If he was the best, last year would have never happened.

Last year probably would have happened if Mickey Mouse had been the GM.

papz · 02-28-2013, 07:44 AM

I don't think he's the best but I think it's unfair to judge him based on last season... lots of extenuating circumstances. To be the best, you've got to be the complete package. He excels more in one aspect than the other.

saintsfan1976 · 02-28-2013, 07:45 AM

By last year I mean the "scandal" that lead to suspensions and ultimately a 7-9 season.

D_it_up · 02-28-2013, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

By last year I mean the "scandal" that lead to suspensions and ultimately a 7-9 season.

Oh, I know what you were referring to. I just don't think he's the one to be pointing the finger at there. It most likely would have happened with anyone who was GM for the Saints as long as Gregg Williams was employed.

saintsfan1976 · 02-28-2013, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Oh, I know what you were referring to. I just don't think he's the one to be pointing the finger at there. It most likely would have happened with anyone who was GM for the Saints as long as Gregg Williams was employed.

Without re-hashing what seemed to consume all of us for the better part of 10 months, I disagree. Loomis knew.

D_it_up · 02-28-2013, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Without re-hashing what seemed to consume all of us for the better part of 10 months, I disagree. Loomis knew.

I never said he didn't know. I just think that any GM that had been there would have known. Would they have put a stop to it? I doubt it.

FinSaint · 02-28-2013, 08:07 AM

I think Loomis is a great GM, but like Papz said; he excels in some areas while maybe not being as strong in others - still one heck of a GM.

Ozzie Newsome is another really good GM, who I wouldn't mind having if Loomis had to be replaced for some reason.

Danno · 02-28-2013, 08:07 AM

Best? Maybe.

I do know that as far as the job duties of a GM, he's a very good one.

He listens to what his coaches want, and then gets it for them.

He is obviously great with numbers.

The only downside is we have over-paid numerous players during his tenure and our last 5 drafts have been pretty poor.

I'd imagine he's looking to shake-up the draft scouts if this continues, if he hasn't already. Changes in the scouting department often go unnoticed.

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D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Best GM in football. That title has to belong to "Magic" Mickey Loomis. He may not be the best talent evaluator, but he doesn't need to be. The coaching staff and scouts have that under control. However, when it comes to numbers, other GM's should take note of how this guy manipulates the salary cap and makes it his *****. This current string of contract restructuring just solidifies that. Just thought I would get that out there.

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D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best GM in football. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 If he was the best, last year would have never happened. Last year probably would have happened if Mickey Mouse had been the GM.

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D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best GM in football. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 By last year I mean the "scandal" that lead to suspensions and ultimately a 7-9 season. Oh, I know what you were referring to. I just don't think he's the one to be pointing the finger at there. It most likely would have happened with anyone who was GM for the Saints as long as Gregg Williams was employed.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best GM in football. Originally Posted by D_it_up Oh, I know what you were referring to. I just don't think he's the one to be pointing the finger at there. It most likely would have happened with anyone who was GM for the Saints as long as Gregg Williams was employed. Without re-hashing what seemed to consume all of us for the better part of 10 months, I disagree. Loomis knew.

02-28-2013, 07:58 AM	#8
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Best GM in football. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Without re-hashing what seemed to consume all of us for the better part of 10 months, I disagree. Loomis knew. I never said he didn't know. I just think that any GM that had been there would have known. Would they have put a stop to it? I doubt it.

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