Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

I'm disappointed that the guy that flipped out calling 90% of the members of this site chumps has the word "Alaska" in his handle.

We all have hard times, don't turn on your friends or family.

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

I think it has to be the former, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be the latter if the Saints were able to somehow get a 2nd rounder.

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

He got all pizzy after Vilma raked him over the coals.
He said he would give us back our 2nd rounder if we behaved......I guess we didn't toe the line even though the coaches and FO all said and did the right things. So, he said we're bad people(yes, bounty hunters) who don't deserve our 2nd round draft pick back.

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

Don't wanna see him go..... But hope Ingram steps it up.... If not bbbuuuuuuusssstttttt !!!!!!!

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

So is this thread a hot LZ or what?!?

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

Goodell didn't give the 2nd round pick back because Loomis is still the GM, Payton is still the coach, and Vilma and Smith are still on the team. I have no illusions about that. I said all along, since way back at the beginning, that these punishments were purposefully designed to try and get certain targeted people fired, as a carrot and stick move, and it didn't work. Every person disciplined had some previous run in with Goodell that made him personally look bad. If we wanted the pain to stop, the Saints could have fired Payton and Loomis and cut Vilma and Smith and it would all have been over with, back to normal. (NOT saying that is what I wanted, just that it was one of Goodell's motives)

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

Only issue I have is we have too many running backs...
letys get something for them and beef up the defense.
I like to keep
1. P.Thomas
2. D.Sproles
3. M.Ingram/C. Ivory either or

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

+1. Too bad we didn't have this stable of backs to use during that playoff game up in Seattle a few years back. All I can remember was Julious Jones being too light in the butt to carry the load and Bush getting concussed.

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

Level 1: 1,323,000 $ (ROFR, Right Of First Refusal))
Level 2: 1,323,000 $ or 110% of 2012 salary (Original Round Pick)
Level 3: 2,023,088 $ or 110% of 2012 salary (Second Round Pick)
Level 4: 2,878,628 $ or 110% of 2012 salary (First Round Pick)

second round cap hit? your getting to the point of having to pick cap vs production. at this point i have to pause and really debate the worth if he can not stay health. health is the key here. 2 million for what less than 100 plays, not carries, in a season? i am not solid on it

there are some late round and UDFA options

Spencer Ware*, RB, LSU
Height: 5-11. Weight: 223

Cameron Marshall, RB, Arizona State
Height: 5-11. Weight: 223.

Washaun Ealey, RB, Jacksonville State
Height: 5-11. Weight: 215

All more cap friendly and less injury history.

Re: Holder: Saints to tender Ivory
 

I read somewheres the reason we carry so many rb's now is because of that Seattle game. funny huh