Nose tackle

triman · 03-20-2013, 01:19 PM

McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.

jeanpierre · 03-22-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by triman

McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.

Any first round pick not starting is a bust...

Danno · 03-22-2013, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Any first round pick not starting is a bust...

So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years?

There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts.

jeanpierre · 03-22-2013, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years?

There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts.

Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)...

But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season...

Danno · 03-22-2013, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)...

But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season...

So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust?

xan · 03-22-2013, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust?

I think that if you aren't having a significant impact by game 10 of your rookie season, something is seriously wrong with either the front office to picking the loser or the player for mailing it in.

You get half a season to make the transition and learn the speed of the game. For the money a 1st rounder gets, the team should justifiably expect the player to deliver.

jeanpierre · 03-22-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust?

Yes.

Seer1 · 03-22-2013, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust?

I'm okay with shared time for a couple of years, but by year three they need to be kicking ass or bust. I bet a bunch more make it into the bust category even with my forgiving definition. That's just the nature of the beast.

Shoe. · 03-22-2013, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by triman

McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.

Add this to the list of "Things That McShady and I Disagree On"

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by triman McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust. Any first round pick not starting is a bust...

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by jeanpierre Any first round pick not starting is a bust... So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years? There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by Danno So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years? There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts. Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)... But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season... Cruize likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by jeanpierre Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)... But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season... So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust?

03-22-2013, 02:24 PM	#6
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by Danno So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust? I think that if you aren't having a significant impact by game 10 of your rookie season, something is seriously wrong with either the front office to picking the loser or the player for mailing it in. You get half a season to make the transition and learn the speed of the game. For the money a 1st rounder gets, the team should justifiably expect the player to deliver.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by Danno So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust? Yes. SloMotion likes this.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by Danno So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust? I'm okay with shared time for a couple of years, but by year three they need to be kicking ass or bust. I bet a bunch more make it into the bust category even with my forgiving definition. That's just the nature of the beast.

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