Nose tackle

Danno · 03-20-2013, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by triman

NT is the foundation of a34 . You need a rotation at this position. It takes a special type of player to play NT. Forty % of NT picked in the 1 to 20 range of the draft were busts.

Where'd that stat come from?

What are they considering busts?

triman · 03-20-2013, 02:19 PM

McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.

NinthWardJay · 03-20-2013, 02:37 PM

It is getting kinda irritating that a number of people keep saying that Bunkley can't play NT.

Can everyone who feels this way please just go watch some footage of his play in Denver. While you are watching this footage grab a pencil and paper and write down the position that he lined up in EVERY SINGLE PLAY.

triman · 03-20-2013, 02:58 PM

Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc...

NinthWardJay · 03-20-2013, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by triman

Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc...

No excuse for Ellis but Rodgers and Franklyn were both good 3-4 Nose tackles that just didnt pan out in our 4-3 system

hagan714 · 03-20-2013, 03:03 PM

next year is a feel it out as you go time on defense i guess. thats how i am approaching it. i am sure another player or two will be added to NT as to other areas of the defense.

hang onto your seats it is going to be a wild ride on defense in 2013

Rugby Saint II · 03-21-2013, 01:34 PM

Hicks could probably man the NT position, but I believe that he will have more of an impact from the DE position.

halloween 65 · 03-21-2013, 06:05 PM

I still want a big, big DT with Bunkley, one as good if not better, picked up in the draft. Youngblood on the line.

triman · 03-21-2013, 08:59 PM

I feel that NT is paramount to success of the 34

lumm0x · 03-22-2013, 11:23 AM

Bunkley is a fine NT in a 3-4 and he's proven that but it is also a position where you need rotation and depth. I too like Hicks as a 3-4 DE. He isn't stout enough to be an NT in my opinion. I wouldn't mind bringing Casey Hampton in as Bunkley's back up. Sure he's 35 years old but I think he could be had very cheap, he's been one of the best at the position over his career and I think he has 20 solid snaps in him a game.

Another guy I wouldn't mind seeing us spend one of our late round picks on would be Steelers RFA Steve McLendon. I believe he's tendered at $1.3M which is affordable and he's been apprenticing a 3-4 NT position for a few years.

Either one would address the depth and rotation issues at this position with experience in my opinion.

03-20-2013, 01:51 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by triman NT is the foundation of a34 . You need a rotation at this position. It takes a special type of player to play NT. Forty % of NT picked in the 1 to 20 range of the draft were busts. Where'd that stat come from? What are they considering busts?

03-20-2013, 02:19 PM	#12
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Nose tackle McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.
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03-20-2013, 02:37 PM	#13
NinthWardJay Captain Swag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Orleans/Atlanta Posts: 189	Re: Nose tackle It is getting kinda irritating that a number of people keep saying that Bunkley can't play NT. Can everyone who feels this way please just go watch some footage of his play in Denver. While you are watching this footage grab a pencil and paper and write down the position that he lined up in EVERY SINGLE PLAY. Danno likes this.

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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Nose tackle Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc...
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03-20-2013, 03:02 PM	#15
NinthWardJay Captain Swag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Orleans/Atlanta Posts: 189	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by triman Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc... No excuse for Ellis but Rodgers and Franklyn were both good 3-4 Nose tackles that just didnt pan out in our 4-3 system

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lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Nose tackle Bunkley is a fine NT in a 3-4 and he's proven that but it is also a position where you need rotation and depth. I too like Hicks as a 3-4 DE. He isn't stout enough to be an NT in my opinion. I wouldn't mind bringing Casey Hampton in as Bunkley's back up. Sure he's 35 years old but I think he could be had very cheap, he's been one of the best at the position over his career and I think he has 20 solid snaps in him a game. Another guy I wouldn't mind seeing us spend one of our late round picks on would be Steelers RFA Steve McLendon. I believe he's tendered at $1.3M which is affordable and he's been apprenticing a 3-4 NT position for a few years. Either one would address the depth and rotation issues at this position with experience in my opinion. lee909 likes this.

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