Nose tackle

Danno · 03-20-2013, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by triman

NT is the foundation of a34 . You need a rotation at this position. It takes a special type of player to play NT. Forty % of NT picked in the 1 to 20 range of the draft were busts.

Where'd that stat come from?

What are they considering busts?

triman · 03-20-2013, 01:19 PM

McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.

jeanpierre · 03-22-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by triman

McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.

Any first round pick not starting is a bust...

Danno · 03-22-2013, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Any first round pick not starting is a bust...

So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years?

There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts.

jeanpierre · 03-22-2013, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years?

There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts.

Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)...

But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season...

Danno · 03-22-2013, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)...

But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season...

So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust?

Shoe. · 03-22-2013, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by triman

McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.

Add this to the list of "Things That McShady and I Disagree On"

NinthWardJay · 03-20-2013, 01:37 PM

It is getting kinda irritating that a number of people keep saying that Bunkley can't play NT.

Can everyone who feels this way please just go watch some footage of his play in Denver. While you are watching this footage grab a pencil and paper and write down the position that he lined up in EVERY SINGLE PLAY.

triman · 03-20-2013, 01:58 PM

Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc...

NinthWardJay · 03-20-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by triman

Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc...

No excuse for Ellis but Rodgers and Franklyn were both good 3-4 Nose tackles that just didnt pan out in our 4-3 system

03-20-2013, 12:51 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by triman NT is the foundation of a34 . You need a rotation at this position. It takes a special type of player to play NT. Forty % of NT picked in the 1 to 20 range of the draft were busts. Where'd that stat come from? What are they considering busts?

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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Nose tackle McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by triman McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust. Any first round pick not starting is a bust...

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by jeanpierre Any first round pick not starting is a bust... So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years? There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by Danno So Aaron Rodgers was a bust for 3 years? There are numerous rookies who don't start but get significant playing time that are not busts. Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)... But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season... Cruize likes this.

03-22-2013, 01:20 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by jeanpierre Fine - when Brett Favre is starting and you're drafted in the first round, you may have to wait (Exception F1)... But first round picks should be starting and having an impact in their first season... So do you think that if you're a 1st round pick at any position other than QB, and you don't start or have an impact in your 1st year, you're a bust?

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Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by triman McShay gave that Stat on podcast . Any player picked in first rd not starting is a bust. Add this to the list of "Things That McShady and I Disagree On"

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NinthWardJay Captain Swag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Orleans/Atlanta Posts: 189	Re: Nose tackle It is getting kinda irritating that a number of people keep saying that Bunkley can't play NT. Can everyone who feels this way please just go watch some footage of his play in Denver. While you are watching this footage grab a pencil and paper and write down the position that he lined up in EVERY SINGLE PLAY. Danno likes this.

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triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Nose tackle Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc...
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03-20-2013, 02:02 PM	#10
NinthWardJay Captain Swag Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New Orleans/Atlanta Posts: 189	Re: Nose tackle Originally Posted by triman Bunkley still needs someone to rotate with him. Walterfootball says that the failure rate of DTs is 46%. That is a scary failure rate. NT is even harder to fill than. 43 DT. We have been trying to fill that position for several years. Ellis, Franklin, Rodgers etc... No excuse for Ellis but Rodgers and Franklyn were both good 3-4 Nose tackles that just didnt pan out in our 4-3 system

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