Bryant McKinnie LT

FinSaint · 03-23-2013, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by Joker

When you have the worst defense in the league you have to make changes.

...and you don't think there's already been quite a lot of changes with the defensive unit as a whole?

I'd certainly take either Vollmer or Winston over McKinnie, but I just don't know if the Saints' FO is really looking at filling the LT position with any of these guys mentioned.

Joker · 03-23-2013, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

...and you don't think there's already been quite a lot of changes with the defensive unit as a whole?

I'd certainly take either Vollmer or Winston over McKinnie, but I just don't know if the Saints' FO is really looking at filling the LT position with any of these guys mentioned.

Really, they made a bunch of changes by signing 1 CB and 1 LB, other than that that's the only changes that have been made. I forgot restructured a few washed up veterans big undeserving contracts. Rob still needs pass rushers, I don't care how many corners they sign.

You don't think the Saints wouldn't take either of those two guys for a LT, who's the one player on the saints team that the team goes as he goes ? Yea you're right, Drew Brees. So,lets depend on a rookie to protect his blindside. If they could afford either of those two guys and plug a few more holes on defense they would be all over Vollmer.

FinSaint · 03-23-2013, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Joker

Really, they made a bunch of changes by signing 1 CB and 1 LB, other than that that's the only changes that have been made. I forgot restructured a few washed up veterans big undeserving contracts. Rob still needs pass rushers, I don't care how many corners they sign.

How about changing their defensive coordinator?

How about changing from a base 4-3 defense to a 3-4 base defense?

How about finally seeing waste of space and cap players like Ellis depart?

Originally Posted by Joker

You don't think the Saints wouldn't take either of those two guys for a LT, who's the one player on the saints team that the team goes as he goes ? Yea you're right, Drew Brees. So,lets depend on a rookie to protect his blindside. If they could afford either of those two guys and plug a few more holes on defense they would be all over Vollmer.

When did I ever state that I thought that the Saints wouldn't take any and all of those OTs mentioned if they could afford them and fit them on the active roster?

I merely stated that I don't know what the Saints' FO's plans are for replacing Bushrod as the LT, and I think that's probably true for 99% of the posters here - accounting for the slight chance that some FO members are trolling around on these boards.

Joker · 03-23-2013, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

How about changing their defensive coordinator?

How about changing from a base 4-3 defense to a 3-4 base defense?

How about finally seeing waste of space and cap players like Ellis depart?

When did I ever state that I thought that the Saints wouldn't take any and all of those OTs mentioned if they could afford them and fit them on the active roster?

I merely stated that I don't know what the Saints' FO's plans are for replacing Bushrod as the LT, and I think that's probably true for 99% of the posters here - accounting for the slight chance that some FO members are trolling around on these boards.

Sedric Ellis is a Free Agent contract over, no need to sign him, I did mention Rob Ryan but that's not changing personnell.

FinSaint · 03-23-2013, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Joker

Sedric Ellis is a Free Agent contract over, no need to sign him, I did mention Rob Ryan but that's not changing personnell.

I know Ellis is an UFA and that is why I never said anything about signing him... just that it's good to see someone like him who has underperformed for many years at an important defensive position depart from the team when his contract is up and not see the team re-sign him for some curious reason:

Originally Posted by FinSaint

How about finally seeing waste of space and cap players like Ellis depart?

And about the defensive changes... what I stated originally was:

Originally Posted by FinSaint

...and you don't think there's already been quite a lot of changes with the defensive unit as a whole?

I never claimed that the defensive changes were all to the personnel, but to the defensive unit as a whole, which IMO includes the defensive coordinator running things and the main scheme he uses to utilize the players at hand. Making this conversation about the personnel changes was all about you steering it that way or a misunderstanding on both of our parts on what the other one was talking about.

03-23-2013, 07:15 AM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Bryant McKinnie LT Originally Posted by Joker When you have the worst defense in the league you have to make changes. ...and you don't think there's already been quite a lot of changes with the defensive unit as a whole? I'd certainly take either Vollmer or Winston over McKinnie, but I just don't know if the Saints' FO is really looking at filling the LT position with any of these guys mentioned.

03-23-2013, 08:47 AM	#2
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Bryant McKinnie LT Originally Posted by FinSaint ...and you don't think there's already been quite a lot of changes with the defensive unit as a whole? I'd certainly take either Vollmer or Winston over McKinnie, but I just don't know if the Saints' FO is really looking at filling the LT position with any of these guys mentioned. Really, they made a bunch of changes by signing 1 CB and 1 LB, other than that that's the only changes that have been made. I forgot restructured a few washed up veterans big undeserving contracts. Rob still needs pass rushers, I don't care how many corners they sign. You don't think the Saints wouldn't take either of those two guys for a LT, who's the one player on the saints team that the team goes as he goes ? Yea you're right, Drew Brees. So,lets depend on a rookie to protect his blindside. If they could afford either of those two guys and plug a few more holes on defense they would be all over Vollmer.

03-23-2013, 09:17 AM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Bryant McKinnie LT Originally Posted by Joker Really, they made a bunch of changes by signing 1 CB and 1 LB, other than that that's the only changes that have been made. I forgot restructured a few washed up veterans big undeserving contracts. Rob still needs pass rushers, I don't care how many corners they sign. How about changing their defensive coordinator? How about changing from a base 4-3 defense to a 3-4 base defense? How about finally seeing waste of space and cap players like Ellis depart? Originally Posted by Joker You don't think the Saints wouldn't take either of those two guys for a LT, who's the one player on the saints team that the team goes as he goes ? Yea you're right, Drew Brees. So,lets depend on a rookie to protect his blindside. If they could afford either of those two guys and plug a few more holes on defense they would be all over Vollmer. When did I ever state that I thought that the Saints wouldn't take any and all of those OTs mentioned if they could afford them and fit them on the active roster? I merely stated that I don't know what the Saints' FO's plans are for replacing Bushrod as the LT, and I think that's probably true for 99% of the posters here - accounting for the slight chance that some FO members are trolling around on these boards.
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03-23-2013, 09:25 AM	#4
Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Bryant McKinnie LT Originally Posted by FinSaint How about changing their defensive coordinator? How about changing from a base 4-3 defense to a 3-4 base defense? How about finally seeing waste of space and cap players like Ellis depart? When did I ever state that I thought that the Saints wouldn't take any and all of those OTs mentioned if they could afford them and fit them on the active roster? I merely stated that I don't know what the Saints' FO's plans are for replacing Bushrod as the LT, and I think that's probably true for 99% of the posters here - accounting for the slight chance that some FO members are trolling around on these boards. Sedric Ellis is a Free Agent contract over, no need to sign him, I did mention Rob Ryan but that's not changing personnell.

03-23-2013, 09:39 AM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Bryant McKinnie LT Originally Posted by Joker Sedric Ellis is a Free Agent contract over, no need to sign him, I did mention Rob Ryan but that's not changing personnell. I know Ellis is an UFA and that is why I never said anything about signing him... just that it's good to see someone like him who has underperformed for many years at an important defensive position depart from the team when his contract is up and not see the team re-sign him for some curious reason: Originally Posted by FinSaint How about finally seeing waste of space and cap players like Ellis depart? And about the defensive changes... what I stated originally was: Originally Posted by FinSaint ...and you don't think there's already been quite a lot of changes with the defensive unit as a whole? I never claimed that the defensive changes were all to the personnel, but to the defensive unit as a whole, which IMO includes the defensive coordinator running things and the main scheme he uses to utilize the players at hand. Making this conversation about the personnel changes was all about you steering it that way or a misunderstanding on both of our parts on what the other one was talking about.
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