James Harrison to Saints?

xan · 03-26-2013, 08:30 PM

How much left does he have in the tank? He's got rings and he's got money. Why here, why now?

Danno · 03-26-2013, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by xan

How much left does he have in the tank? He's got rings and he's got money. Why here, why now?

1. Because he fits what we want to do
2. He's still got a few years left (according to many)
3. He's gonna have to take a paycut, so he may not be as expensive as 1st thought.
4. Because the Saints are Superbowl contenders
5. Because our defense is looking for an OLB with experience, attitude and leadership

Jamessr · 03-26-2013, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

1. Because he fits what we want to do
2. He's still got a few years left (according to many)
3. He's gonna have to take a paycut, so he may not be as expensive as 1st thought.
4. Because the Saints are Superbowl contenders
5. Because our defense is looking for an OLB with experience, attitude and leadership

6. He hates Roger Goodell
7. Roger Goodell hates us
8. Win Super Bowl

Danno · 03-26-2013, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

6. He hates Roger Goodell
7. Roger Goodell hates us
8. Win Super Bowl

Well I thought 5 would be enough, but solid additions nonetheless.

burningmetal · 03-26-2013, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

1. Because he fits what we want to do
2. He's still got a few years left (according to many)
3. He's gonna have to take a paycut, so he may not be as expensive as 1st thought.
4. Because the Saints are Superbowl contenders
5. Because our defense is looking for an OLB with experience, attitude and leadership

Attitude, yes. Leadership, not so much. The guy is a tool, and I could care less where he ends up. I wouldn't want him in his prime. He is certainly far past that.

We have more than enough young talented pass rushing linebackers to gamble with, without taking a shot in the dark with Harrison, IMO.

Torfino · 03-27-2013, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Attitude, yes. Leadership, not so much. The guy is a tool, and I could care less where he ends up. I wouldn't want him in his prime. He is certainly far past that.

We have more than enough young talented pass rushing linebackers to gamble with, without taking a shot in the dark with Harrison, IMO.

Leadership not so much? According to his Steelers teammates he was a big presence in the locker room, a leader by example in the weight room and film room, and many would take a bullet for him. Almost any story you read about him mentions him as a team leader and very popular with teammates.

How can we not want DeBo on our team? Mr Monday Night? The Assassin? The SilverBack? All nicknames given to him by teammates and Steelers announcers because he's strong as an ox and knocks people the **** out. This guy is a beast and would look at home in the black and gold.

burningmetal · 03-27-2013, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Torfino

Leadership not so much? According to his Steelers teammates he was a big presence in the locker room, a leader by example in the weight room and film room, and many would take a bullet for him. Almost any story you read about him mentions him as a team leader and very popular with teammates.

How can we not want DeBo on our team? Mr Monday Night? The Assassin? The SilverBack? All nicknames given to him by teammates and Steelers announcers because he's strong as an ox and knocks people the **** out. This guy is a beast and would look at home in the black and gold.

They all work out. That's not the leadership I'm looking for. A cheap shot artist, and a guy who whines constantly. No thanks. I don't want that on my team. You can have your work out warrior.

Just another distraction we don't need. I'm already not happy we brought in Ryan, for that reason.

rezburna · 03-27-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

They all work out. That's not the leadership I'm looking for. A cheap shot artist, and a guy who whines constantly. No thanks. I don't want that on my team. You can have your work out warrior.

Just another distraction we don't need. I'm already not happy we brought in Ryan, for that reason.

When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football.

Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that.

TheOak · 03-27-2013, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football.

Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that.

Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans.

I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs.

offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality.

defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball.

burningmetal · 03-27-2013, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football.

Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that.

This is a poor example. I'd just about bet you can't name more than one POSSIBLE cheap shot that year. The so-called "high-low" hit on Favre.

Name one other cheap shot. The hit on Warner was big, but it was perfectly clean. Huge difference between big hits and cheap shots. You're going to have to do better than this.

Also, our defense doesn't need "grime" to be good. In 09', Will Smith was 4 years younger and had his best year, with 13 sacks. We had Darren Sharper, who had an historic season. Greer and Porter were younger and playing really well. We forced a ton of turnovers. Williams' all blitz system became predictable after that, and we lost Sharper to injury and eventual retirement. It all went downhill after that.

You're going to tell me that just because we lost Sharper and Fujita, that our defense lost it's nastiness? That was not it. We just got worse, plain and simple. We need better players. Harrison is not an answer in my opinion.

03-26-2013, 08:30 PM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: James Harrison to Saints? How much left does he have in the tank? He's got rings and he's got money. Why here, why now?

03-26-2013, 08:37 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by xan How much left does he have in the tank? He's got rings and he's got money. Why here, why now? 1. Because he fits what we want to do 2. He's still got a few years left (according to many) 3. He's gonna have to take a paycut, so he may not be as expensive as 1st thought. 4. Because the Saints are Superbowl contenders 5. Because our defense is looking for an OLB with experience, attitude and leadership BIGEASY504, RockyMountainSaint, hagan714 and 7 others like this.

03-26-2013, 08:47 PM	#3
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by Danno 1. Because he fits what we want to do 2. He's still got a few years left (according to many) 3. He's gonna have to take a paycut, so he may not be as expensive as 1st thought. 4. Because the Saints are Superbowl contenders 5. Because our defense is looking for an OLB with experience, attitude and leadership 6. He hates Roger Goodell 7. Roger Goodell hates us 8. Win Super Bowl jnormand, SapperSaint, RockyMountainSaint and 6 others like this.

03-26-2013, 08:49 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by Jamessr 6. He hates Roger Goodell 7. Roger Goodell hates us 8. Win Super Bowl Well I thought 5 would be enough, but solid additions nonetheless. SapperSaint, Cruize, 73Saint and 4 others like this.

03-26-2013, 09:40 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by Danno 1. Because he fits what we want to do 2. He's still got a few years left (according to many) 3. He's gonna have to take a paycut, so he may not be as expensive as 1st thought. 4. Because the Saints are Superbowl contenders 5. Because our defense is looking for an OLB with experience, attitude and leadership Attitude, yes. Leadership, not so much. The guy is a tool, and I could care less where he ends up. I wouldn't want him in his prime. He is certainly far past that. We have more than enough young talented pass rushing linebackers to gamble with, without taking a shot in the dark with Harrison, IMO. Joker likes this.

03-27-2013, 09:23 AM	#6
Torfino Rookie Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 12	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by burningmetal Attitude, yes. Leadership, not so much. The guy is a tool, and I could care less where he ends up. I wouldn't want him in his prime. He is certainly far past that. We have more than enough young talented pass rushing linebackers to gamble with, without taking a shot in the dark with Harrison, IMO. Leadership not so much? According to his Steelers teammates he was a big presence in the locker room, a leader by example in the weight room and film room, and many would take a bullet for him. Almost any story you read about him mentions him as a team leader and very popular with teammates. How can we not want DeBo on our team? Mr Monday Night? The Assassin? The SilverBack? All nicknames given to him by teammates and Steelers announcers because he's strong as an ox and knocks people the **** out. This guy is a beast and would look at home in the black and gold. TheOak, Jamessr and Who Dat Que like this.
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03-27-2013, 01:34 PM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by Torfino Leadership not so much? According to his Steelers teammates he was a big presence in the locker room, a leader by example in the weight room and film room, and many would take a bullet for him. Almost any story you read about him mentions him as a team leader and very popular with teammates. How can we not want DeBo on our team? Mr Monday Night? The Assassin? The SilverBack? All nicknames given to him by teammates and Steelers announcers because he's strong as an ox and knocks people the **** out. This guy is a beast and would look at home in the black and gold. They all work out. That's not the leadership I'm looking for. A cheap shot artist, and a guy who whines constantly. No thanks. I don't want that on my team. You can have your work out warrior. Just another distraction we don't need. I'm already not happy we brought in Ryan, for that reason.

03-27-2013, 02:02 PM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,089	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by burningmetal They all work out. That's not the leadership I'm looking for. A cheap shot artist, and a guy who whines constantly. No thanks. I don't want that on my team. You can have your work out warrior. Just another distraction we don't need. I'm already not happy we brought in Ryan, for that reason. When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football. Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that. TheOak, ChrisXVI, K Major and 1 others like this.

03-27-2013, 02:48 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football. Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that. Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans. I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs. offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality. defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball. Seer1, Jamessr and K Major like this.
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03-27-2013, 08:29 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football. Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that. This is a poor example. I'd just about bet you can't name more than one POSSIBLE cheap shot that year. The so-called "high-low" hit on Favre. Name one other cheap shot. The hit on Warner was big, but it was perfectly clean. Huge difference between big hits and cheap shots. You're going to have to do better than this. Also, our defense doesn't need "grime" to be good. In 09', Will Smith was 4 years younger and had his best year, with 13 sacks. We had Darren Sharper, who had an historic season. Greer and Porter were younger and playing really well. We forced a ton of turnovers. Williams' all blitz system became predictable after that, and we lost Sharper to injury and eventual retirement. It all went downhill after that. You're going to tell me that just because we lost Sharper and Fujita, that our defense lost it's nastiness? That was not it. We just got worse, plain and simple. We need better players. Harrison is not an answer in my opinion.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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