James Harrison to Saints?

TheOak · 03-27-2013, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football.

Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that.

Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans.

I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs.

offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality.

defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball.

halloween 65 · 03-27-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans.

I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs.

offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality.

defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball.

I like that in a D also, something we haven't had in seems like forever.

burningmetal · 03-27-2013, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans.

I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs.

offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality.

defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball.

I can't help but notice the hypocrisy in your statements here. I believe it was yesterday, maybe the day before, that you were arguing with me about my dislike for the new helmet to helmet rule, because I don't like the grey area that exists with that kind of thing.

You gave me all this talk about how players shouldn't lead with the crown of their helmet (which I agree with, if it is intentional, but often it's not), and now you're arguing with me over James Harrison's propensity to try to knock guys heads off. Which, by the way, he almost always leads with the crown of his helmet. You're now telling me that this is acceptable in his case, because we need his "grit". I love big hits, but I see this guy aim for the head with great regularity. I don't respect that.

I'm sure you'll try to tell me that I misunderstood you somehow, but I assure you, I have not.

rezburna · 03-27-2013, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I can't help but notice the hypocrisy in your statements here. I believe it was yesterday, maybe the day before, that you were arguing with me about my dislike for the new helmet to helmet rule, because I don't like the grey area that exists with that kind of thing.

You gave me all this talk about how players shouldn't lead with the crown of their helmet (which I agree with, if it is intentional, but often it's not), and now you're arguing with me over James Harrison's propensity to try to knock guys heads off. Which, by the way, he almost always leads with the crown of his helmet. You're now telling me that this is acceptable in his case, because we need his "grit". I love big hits, but I see this guy aim for the head with great regularity. I don't respect that.

I'm sure you'll try to tell me that I misunderstood you somehow, but I assure you, I have not.

this has nothing to do with me, but I say concuss everybody you can...savage life.

burningmetal · 03-27-2013, 09:22 PM

You want to be physical, and you want to do whatever you can to win. Winning is more important for players (at least it should be) than it is for fans, because it's their job. But when all is said and done, it is still a game. There is life after football. You can hit someone hard without trying to kill them. Injuries happen, and that should be understood. I think most penalties are overblown because things happen when you're going full speed.

But James Harrison crosses the line of incidental. This is why the Saints got crucified in the media for the program they were said to have run... The problem is that there isn't any visual evidence of the Saints trying to hurt people. They just played football. That's why I maintain my respect for this organization.

03-27-2013, 02:48 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by rezburna When we won it all we took plenty of cheap shots. Ask Brett Favre. His response? Yeah...but its football. Our team isn't mean anymore. It isn't grimy anymore. We need that. Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans. I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs. offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality. defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball. Seer1, Jamessr and K Major like this.
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03-27-2013, 03:04 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans. I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs. offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality. defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball. I like that in a D also, something we haven't had in seems like forever.

03-27-2013, 08:48 PM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by TheOak Precisely why I was happy with the Lewis signing. Of any of the defenses in the league, I want the Steeler's grit in New Orleans. I see offensive attitudes and Defensive attitudes differently and they have different needs. offense - Needs a I will catch the ball because i am going to get hit anyway sort of mentality. defense - If I am going to hit someone I want his teeth scattered on the turff like chick-lets... even if he doesnt have the ball. I can't help but notice the hypocrisy in your statements here. I believe it was yesterday, maybe the day before, that you were arguing with me about my dislike for the new helmet to helmet rule, because I don't like the grey area that exists with that kind of thing. You gave me all this talk about how players shouldn't lead with the crown of their helmet (which I agree with, if it is intentional, but often it's not), and now you're arguing with me over James Harrison's propensity to try to knock guys heads off. Which, by the way, he almost always leads with the crown of his helmet. You're now telling me that this is acceptable in his case, because we need his "grit". I love big hits, but I see this guy aim for the head with great regularity. I don't respect that. I'm sure you'll try to tell me that I misunderstood you somehow, but I assure you, I have not.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-27-2013, 09:01 PM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,089	Re: James Harrison to Saints? Originally Posted by burningmetal I can't help but notice the hypocrisy in your statements here. I believe it was yesterday, maybe the day before, that you were arguing with me about my dislike for the new helmet to helmet rule, because I don't like the grey area that exists with that kind of thing. You gave me all this talk about how players shouldn't lead with the crown of their helmet (which I agree with, if it is intentional, but often it's not), and now you're arguing with me over James Harrison's propensity to try to knock guys heads off. Which, by the way, he almost always leads with the crown of his helmet. You're now telling me that this is acceptable in his case, because we need his "grit". I love big hits, but I see this guy aim for the head with great regularity. I don't respect that. I'm sure you'll try to tell me that I misunderstood you somehow, but I assure you, I have not. this has nothing to do with me, but I say concuss everybody you can...savage life.

03-27-2013, 09:22 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: James Harrison to Saints? You want to be physical, and you want to do whatever you can to win. Winning is more important for players (at least it should be) than it is for fans, because it's their job. But when all is said and done, it is still a game. There is life after football. You can hit someone hard without trying to kill them. Injuries happen, and that should be understood. I think most penalties are overblown because things happen when you're going full speed. But James Harrison crosses the line of incidental. This is why the Saints got crucified in the media for the program they were said to have run... The problem is that there isn't any visual evidence of the Saints trying to hurt people. They just played football. That's why I maintain my respect for this organization.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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