New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue

Torfino · 03-27-2013, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

Charles Brown 630,000
Marcel Jones 537,000
Bryce Harris 480,000

Pickings looking pretty slim to protect a 100 million dollar QB!!!!!!
Drafting a LT at 15 would be worse than trying someone that's already on the roster. Like I said on previous threads a LT should be more of a concern than some soft CB, will mention no names. Hopefully Charles Brown will surprise everyone this year but for insurance I believe McKinnie is still out there, yea I know he's about 195 years old but I can't think of anyone else.

I hope we DON'T use #15 on a tackle - I hope we pick someone for the defense 4 out of the 5 picks or we trade down and get more picks and still only pick OT in the 3rd or 4th. Bushrod, Nicks, Evans, DeLaPuente - what do they all have in common? Mid-round or small school gems. Trust them to pick someone when they need to who fits their formula, not who or when the pundits think we should.

Besides, if we get a good OL who will be high-paid we always let them walk, so we're renting them 3 or 4 years at best. I joke with my friends that we are an OL factory for the NFL. But if we pick a really good DB or LB/DE we will make them Saints for life. So I hope we spend it on a Trufant, Mingo, or a Vaccaro, who will lock down a spot for the next 8-10 years.

Rugby Saint II · 03-27-2013, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

I think he was better than mediocre. Certainly not elite by any means but solid.

Hoefully we have some hidden gem stashed away somewhere on the roster because I have no confidence in Brown.

Apparently neither does Payton!

jeanpierre · 03-27-2013, 09:35 PM

This draft is plenty deep at Offensive Tackle...

Round 1
OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M, 6-6/306
OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan, 6-7/306
OT Lane Johnson, Oklahoma, 6-6/303
OT D.J. Fluker, Alabama, 6-5/339

Round 2
OT Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, 6-5/306
OT Kyle Long, Oregon, 6-6/313
OT Menelik Watson, Florida State, 6-5/310
OT Dallas Thomas, Tennessee r, 6-5/306

Round 3
OT David Bakhtiari, Colorado, 6-4/299
OT Oday Aboushi, Virginia, 6-5/308
OT Chris Faulk (Injured), LSU, 6-5/331

Round 4
OT Jordan Mills, Louisiana Tech, 6-5/316
OT David Quessenberry, San Jose State, 6-5/302
OT Xavier Nixon, Florida, 6-6/321

Round 5
OT Brennan Williams (Injured), North Carolina, 6-6/318
OT Reid Fragel, Ohio State, 6-8/308
OT Ricky Wagner, Wisconsin, 6-6/308

Not to mention...

Round 2
OL Barrett Jones (Injured), Bama, 6-4/306

As a Junior, Jones moved to Left Tackle, started all 13 games and won the Outland Trophy for Best College Lineman for the National Championship Crimson Tide...

As a Senior, he THEN moved to Center, started all games and won the Rimington Trophy for Best College Center for the Repeat National Championship Crimson Tide playing with a Lisfranc fracture he developed in the SEC Championship game and played through against ND in the BCS...

Gentleman, this man must be brought into the Black and Gold and if not, well, we're not going to stand here while those that disagree bad mouth the United States of America!

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AllSaints · 03-27-2013, 10:10 PM

LT pretty important protects qb blind side..... But no way they go LT at 15 ... We need a pass rusher ! Like something terrible ! We haven't got to the qb since 09 ! C'mon mannnn

arsaint · 03-27-2013, 10:38 PM

We need someone with experience. A rookie LT sounds scary.

Seer1 · 03-27-2013, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

We need someone with experience. A rookie LT sounds scary.

I'm thinking not having Kroemer is much scarier.

FinSaint · 03-27-2013, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Joker

Hopefully Charles Brown will surprise everyone this year but for insurance I believe McKinnie is still out there, yea I know he's about 195 years old but I can't think of anyone else.

IMO, it's not as much about McKinnie's age than it is about his immobility on the field, and that is something he struggled with his whole career with the Vikes, so the age is secondary - his skill set not being a fit is primary.

RockyMountainSaint · 03-28-2013, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I'm thinking not having Kroemer is much scarier.

I'm with Seer1.

No Kroemer makes the revolving door scary.

FinSaint · 03-28-2013, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

I'm with Seer1.

No Kroemer makes the revolving door scary.

Yeah, it might seem that way, but who knows? Maybe Bret Ingalls can be an even better O-line coach than what Kromer was..?

It's all possible at this point. Anyway, the Saints' website states on his profile that Ingalls has "extensive experience tutoring offensive linemen", whatever that means.

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hagan714 · 03-28-2013, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

"extensive experience tutoring offensive linemen", whatever that means.

pacifier for fans till we see if this blows up or not

03-27-2013, 09:22 PM	#11
Torfino Rookie Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 12	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue Originally Posted by Joker Charles Brown 630,000 Marcel Jones 537,000 Bryce Harris 480,000 Pickings looking pretty slim to protect a 100 million dollar QB!!!!!! Drafting a LT at 15 would be worse than trying someone that's already on the roster. Like I said on previous threads a LT should be more of a concern than some soft CB, will mention no names. Hopefully Charles Brown will surprise everyone this year but for insurance I believe McKinnie is still out there, yea I know he's about 195 years old but I can't think of anyone else. I hope we DON'T use #15 on a tackle - I hope we pick someone for the defense 4 out of the 5 picks or we trade down and get more picks and still only pick OT in the 3rd or 4th. Bushrod, Nicks, Evans, DeLaPuente - what do they all have in common? Mid-round or small school gems. Trust them to pick someone when they need to who fits their formula, not who or when the pundits think we should. Besides, if we get a good OL who will be high-paid we always let them walk, so we're renting them 3 or 4 years at best. I joke with my friends that we are an OL factory for the NFL. But if we pick a really good DB or LB/DE we will make them Saints for life. So I hope we spend it on a Trufant, Mingo, or a Vaccaro, who will lock down a spot for the next 8-10 years.
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03-27-2013, 09:32 PM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue Originally Posted by Boutte I think he was better than mediocre. Certainly not elite by any means but solid. Hoefully we have some hidden gem stashed away somewhere on the roster because I have no confidence in Brown. Apparently neither does Payton!

03-27-2013, 10:10 PM	#14
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue LT pretty important protects qb blind side..... But no way they go LT at 15 ... We need a pass rusher ! Like something terrible ! We haven't got to the qb since 09 ! C'mon mannnn

03-27-2013, 11:27 PM	#16
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue Originally Posted by arsaint We need someone with experience. A rookie LT sounds scary. I'm thinking not having Kroemer is much scarier. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue Originally Posted by Joker Hopefully Charles Brown will surprise everyone this year but for insurance I believe McKinnie is still out there, yea I know he's about 195 years old but I can't think of anyone else. IMO, it's not as much about McKinnie's age than it is about his immobility on the field, and that is something he struggled with his whole career with the Vikes, so the age is secondary - his skill set not being a fit is primary.

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RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue Originally Posted by Seer1 I'm thinking not having Kroemer is much scarier. I'm with Seer1. No Kroemer makes the revolving door scary.

03-28-2013, 03:48 AM	#19
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint I'm with Seer1. No Kroemer makes the revolving door scary. Yeah, it might seem that way, but who knows? Maybe Bret Ingalls can be an even better O-line coach than what Kromer was..? It's all possible at this point. Anyway, the Saints' website states on his profile that Ingalls has "extensive experience tutoring offensive linemen", whatever that means. New Orleans Saints: Bret Ingalls

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints Starting Left Tackle Vacancy Becoming an Issue Originally Posted by FinSaint "extensive experience tutoring offensive linemen", whatever that means. pacifier for fans till we see if this blows up or not

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