Kiper's Latest Mock Draft

Danno · 04-09-2013, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by TheEnigma

Kiper's usually wrong, so let's just wait and see

He's one of the best there is.

AllSaints · 04-09-2013, 09:29 PM

Kenny Vaccaro ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! He is what we need n the secondary !

voodooido · 04-09-2013, 11:13 PM

Well there ya go. We will not pick Jones. Kiper is always wrong!

TheEnigma · 04-10-2013, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

He's one of the best there is.

Not in my opinion

hagan714 · 04-10-2013, 07:32 AM

he is solid at evals but his rankings are usually weak

jeanpierre · 04-10-2013, 08:00 AM

Like all contemporary journalists, Kiper's sources of information, i.e. agents, college staff, coaches, players want some loyalty in return so what makes his columns so informative are also, compromised...

Jarvis Jenkins' case of spinal stenosis scares the hell out of me and there's no way I'd invest anything higher than a fourth rounder on a player with a pre-existing condition like that...

Some of you may remember when we had one of the toughest defenses of all time and our weak link was at cornerback; well we thought we had finally struck gold with CB Vince Buck and guess what ended his career?!? Younger fans may remember him from Cottman Transmission Commercials...

Danno · 04-10-2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

he is solid at evals but his rankings are usually weak

Over the last 5 years he's ranked 4th best of all the mockers.

1 Jason Boris - Times News 43.60 42 51 44 44 37
2 Robby Esch - The Huddle Report 2008 43.20 39 44 45 43 45
3 Al Fronczak - East Coast Sports News 41.80 41 47 37 40 44
4 Mel Kiper jr - ESPN 41.80 41 40 48 43 37
5 Dan Kadar - Mocking The Draft 40.60 41 46 49 38 29
6 Sam Farmer - LA Times 40.60 41 42 45 43 32
7 Scott Wright - Draft Countdown 2004 40.60 36 46 39 43 39
8 Mike Band - Draft Ace 2009 40.60 32 40 38 50 43
9 Ken Zalis - Fans Fantasy Football 40.40 45 40 37 42 38
10 Ryan McCrystal - Draft Ace 39.80 41 38 39 43 38
11 Doug Martz - Draft Board Guru 39.60 40 46 41 38 33
12 Ricky Dimon - Fantasy Football Toolbox 2008 39.20 40 40 35 36 45
13 James Christensen - NE Patriots Draft 39.00 46 35 36 37 41
14 Luchene & Mecino - NFL Rough Draft 38.80 40 36 44 40 34
15 Colin Lindsay - Great Blue North 38.60 40 41 38 35 39
16 Forrest Long - Fantasy Football Toolbox 38.40 42 41 43 34 32
17 Matt Alkire - Scouts Notebook 38.40 39 41 40 37 35
18 Brian Fitzgerald - Draft Daddy 38.40 38 40 38 39 37
19 Matt Bitonti - Draft Daddy 38.00 35 38 40 36 41
20 Tommy Lawlor - Scouts Notebook 37.80 39 36 41 40 33
21 Jeff Mullen - NFL Draft Line 37.80 32 39 35 41 42
22 Drew Boylhart - The Huddle Report 37.60 36 40 33 45 34
23 Brian Phlipot - The Football Hub 37.40 38 40 38 37 34
24 Joel Welser - Fantasy Football Toolbox 37.40 36 34 36 40 41
25 Curtis Popejoy - Draft Board Insider 36.80 38 42 38 32 34
26 Chris Steuber - ChrisSteuber.com 36.60 36 37 38 33 39
27 Lou Pickney - Draft King 35.80 43 34 34 34 34
28 Bill Viola - Saturdays 2 Sundays 35.80 37 33 39 35 35
29 John Clifford - Draft Board Insider 35.60 39 33 34 39 33
30 Peter Schrager - Fox Sports 35.60 37 37 38 31 35
31 Robert Bryant - NFL Draft Dog 35.40 37 33 38 35 34
32 Glenn Bernardi - Draft Daddy 35.00 37 35 34 34 35

Last year, he finished tied for 19th. others...

1 Ben Standig - Fantasy Football Toolbox 51 12 27
2 Bob McGinn - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 46 10 26
Jonnie Stoneberg - Fantasy Football Toolbox 46 10 26
James Christensen - NEPatriotsDraft.com 46 10 26
5 Mike Loyko - NE Patriots Draft 45 10 25
6 Steven Lourie - Football Fan Spot 45 9 27
Ken Zalis - FansFantasyFootball.com 45 9 27
8 Erik Galko - Optimum Scouting 44 9 26
9 JP Miguel - 10 Jardas 43 9 25
Michael Harman - DraftMaven.com 43 9 25
Lou Pickney - Draft King 43 9 25
12 Keet Bailey - NFL Soup 42 9 24
13 Forrest N. Long - Fantasy Football Toolbox 42 8 26
Alex Brown - Optimum Scouting 42 8 26
Hunter Ansley - Draft Zoo 42 8 26
Matt Falk - NFLDraftSeason.com 42 8 26
17 Jason Boris - Times News 42 7 28
18 NFL Fans.com - Scout Team 41 8 25
19 Nolan Vasan - NFL Draft Geek 41 7 27
Al Fronczak - East Coast Sports News 41 7 27
Sam Farmer - LA Times 41 7 27
Brad Clark - NFL's Future 41 7 27
Mel Kiper - ESPN 41 7 27
Ben Morgan - Draft Board Insider 41 7 27
Ryan McCrystal - Draft Ace 41 7 27
Dan Kadar - Mocking the Draft 41 7 27
27 Scott Carasik - Scar Draft 40 8 24
Ricky Dimon - Fantasy Football Toolbox 40 8 24
Jesse Bartolis - NFL Mocks 40 8 24
Matt Elder - Buffalo Bills Draft 40 8 24
Kevin Roberts - NFL Soup 40 8 24
32 Spence & Engle - Draft Breakdown 40 7 26
Lance Zierlein - The Sideline View 40 7 26
Doug Martz - Draft Board Guru 40 7 26
Colin Lindsay - Great Blue North 40 7 26
Luchene & Mecino - NFL Rough Draft 40 7 26
Mark Mitchell - Draft Board Insider 40 7 26
Doug Kurnel - Draft Hybrid 40 7 26
Nolan Nawrocki - Pro Football Weekly 40 7 26
40 Tommy Lawlor - Scouts Notebook 39 7 25
D. Orlando Ledbetter - Atlanta Journal Constitutional 39 7 25
Matthew Fairburn - Mocking the Draft 39 7 25
Robby Esch - The Huddle Report 39 7 25
Adam Baliatico - Mocking the Draft 39 7 25
Matt Alkire - Scouts Notebook 39 7 25
Walter Deptula - WCCPFM.com 39 7 25
Matt McDonnell - College Sports Madness 39 7 25
Doug Kyed - NE Patriots Draft 39 7 25
Erik Dolan - Buffalo Bills Draft 39 7 25
Jimmy O'Brien - Draft Breakdown 39 7 25
Jeff Christiansen - Fantasy Football Toolbox 39 7 0
52 Brian Bosarge - Deep Fried Draft 39 6 27
Ryan Lownes - Draft Breakdown 39 6 27
Sideline Scouting - Staff 39 6 27
John Clifford - Draft Board Insider 39 6 27
56 Jake Cox - DraftTake.com 38 7 24
Dan Viens - NFL Mocks 38 7 24
Football Draft Notebook 38 7 24
Brian Fitzgerald - Draft Daddy 38 7 24
Matt Binstock - Fantasy Football Toolbox 38 7 24
61 Curt Popejoy - Draft Board Insider 38 6 26
Brian Phlipot - The Football Hub 38 6 26
Charles Davis - NFL Network 38 6 26
Clint Clearwater - The Football Expert 38 6 26
Bryan Martin - NFL Mocks 38 6 26
Evan Silva - Rotoworld 38 6 26
Joe Everett - Rookie Draft 38 6 26
Josh Norris - Rotoworld 38 6 26
69 Tony Pauline - TFY Draft Insider 37 7 23
Ryan McKenzie - Fantasy Football Toolbox 37 7 23
Draft Tek - Computer Mock 37 7 23
72 Rob Rang - CBS 37 6 25
Glenn Bernardi - Draft Daddy 37 6 25
Peter Schrager - Fox Sports 37 6 25
Robert Bryant - Draft Dog 37 6 25
Mike Kirby - Mocking the Draft 37 6 25
Walton Spurlin - Fantasy Football Toolbox 37 6 25
Bill Viola - Saturdays 2 Sundays 37 6 25
Dan Hope - Sports Writers Alliance 37 6 25
80 Mike Mayock - NFL Network 37 5 27
81 Todd Kleinheinz - NFL Draft Pros 36 7 22
Draft Site .com 36 7 22
83 Paul Guillemette - Pigskin Paul's Place 36 6 24
Drew Boylhart - The Huddle Report 36 6 24
Josh Gleason - The Cover Two 36 6 24
Scott Wright - Draft Countdown 36 6 24
Joel Welser - College Sports Madness 36 6 24
Rob Warner - Fantasy Football Toolbox 36 6 24
NFL DRAFT SPECIALIST 36 6 24
Mihai Mitrache - OG Draft 36 6 24
Todd Salem - College Sports Madness 36 6 24
Chris Steuber - ChrisSteuber.com 36 6 24
93 MyNFLDraft.com 36 5 26
Sayre Bedinger - NFL Mocks 36 5 26
Mackenzie Pantoja - NFL Mocks 36 5 26
96 Eric Stoner - Draft Breakdown 35 6 23
Matt Bitonti - Draft Daddy 35 6 23
Cody Benjamin - Bleeds-Green.com 35 6 23
Matt De Lima - Fantasy Football Toolbox 35 6 23
100 Peter Clarke - The Sports Chronicles 35 5 25
101 JR Glymph - NFL Draft Blitz 34 6 22
102 Mike Schottey - DraftTek.com 34 4 26
103 Jonathan Cook - Draft Bulletin 33 5 23
104 Scott Garbarini - The Sports Network 33 4 25
105 Jeff Mullen - Draft Line 32 5 22
106 Mike Band - Draft Ace 32 4 24
107 Josh Wingate - Scar Draft 31 4 23

saintfan · 04-10-2013, 05:02 PM

Crap Shoot...

Danno · 04-10-2013, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Crap Shoot...

Yep, we should just pull names out of a hat instead of paying all those scouts.

hagan714 · 04-10-2013, 05:20 PM

all under 50%. so in the end they go home broke and owing.
its all media hype to drive the ratings baby.

04-09-2013, 09:10 PM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Originally Posted by TheEnigma Kiper's usually wrong, so let's just wait and see He's one of the best there is.

04-09-2013, 09:29 PM	#22
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Kenny Vaccaro ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! He is what we need n the secondary !

04-09-2013, 11:13 PM	#23
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,770	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Well there ya go. We will not pick Jones. Kiper is always wrong!
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04-10-2013, 01:17 AM	#24
TheEnigma 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 711	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Originally Posted by Danno He's one of the best there is. Not in my opinion K Major likes this.
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04-10-2013, 07:32 AM	#25
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04-10-2013, 08:00 AM	#26
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Like all contemporary journalists, Kiper's sources of information, i.e. agents, college staff, coaches, players want some loyalty in return so what makes his columns so informative are also, compromised... Jarvis Jenkins' case of spinal stenosis scares the hell out of me and there's no way I'd invest anything higher than a fourth rounder on a player with a pre-existing condition like that... Some of you may remember when we had one of the toughest defenses of all time and our weak link was at cornerback; well we thought we had finally struck gold with CB Vince Buck and guess what ended his career?!? Younger fans may remember him from Cottman Transmission Commercials...
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04-10-2013, 02:28 PM	#27
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Originally Posted by hagan714 he is solid at evals but his rankings are usually weak Over the last 5 years he's ranked 4th best of all the mockers. 1 Jason Boris - Times News 43.60 42 51 44 44 37 2 Robby Esch - The Huddle Report 2008 43.20 39 44 45 43 45 3 Al Fronczak - East Coast Sports News 41.80 41 47 37 40 44 4 Mel Kiper jr - ESPN 41.80 41 40 48 43 37 5 Dan Kadar - Mocking The Draft 40.60 41 46 49 38 29 6 Sam Farmer - LA Times 40.60 41 42 45 43 32 7 Scott Wright - Draft Countdown 2004 40.60 36 46 39 43 39 8 Mike Band - Draft Ace 2009 40.60 32 40 38 50 43 9 Ken Zalis - Fans Fantasy Football 40.40 45 40 37 42 38 10 Ryan McCrystal - Draft Ace 39.80 41 38 39 43 38 11 Doug Martz - Draft Board Guru 39.60 40 46 41 38 33 12 Ricky Dimon - Fantasy Football Toolbox 2008 39.20 40 40 35 36 45 13 James Christensen - NE Patriots Draft 39.00 46 35 36 37 41 14 Luchene & Mecino - NFL Rough Draft 38.80 40 36 44 40 34 15 Colin Lindsay - Great Blue North 38.60 40 41 38 35 39 16 Forrest Long - Fantasy Football Toolbox 38.40 42 41 43 34 32 17 Matt Alkire - Scouts Notebook 38.40 39 41 40 37 35 18 Brian Fitzgerald - Draft Daddy 38.40 38 40 38 39 37 19 Matt Bitonti - Draft Daddy 38.00 35 38 40 36 41 20 Tommy Lawlor - Scouts Notebook 37.80 39 36 41 40 33 21 Jeff Mullen - NFL Draft Line 37.80 32 39 35 41 42 22 Drew Boylhart - The Huddle Report 37.60 36 40 33 45 34 23 Brian Phlipot - The Football Hub 37.40 38 40 38 37 34 24 Joel Welser - Fantasy Football Toolbox 37.40 36 34 36 40 41 25 Curtis Popejoy - Draft Board Insider 36.80 38 42 38 32 34 26 Chris Steuber - ChrisSteuber.com 36.60 36 37 38 33 39 27 Lou Pickney - Draft King 35.80 43 34 34 34 34 28 Bill Viola - Saturdays 2 Sundays 35.80 37 33 39 35 35 29 John Clifford - Draft Board Insider 35.60 39 33 34 39 33 30 Peter Schrager - Fox Sports 35.60 37 37 38 31 35 31 Robert Bryant - NFL Draft Dog 35.40 37 33 38 35 34 32 Glenn Bernardi - Draft Daddy 35.00 37 35 34 34 35 Last year, he finished tied for 19th. others... 1 Ben Standig - Fantasy Football Toolbox 51 12 27 2 Bob McGinn - Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 46 10 26 Jonnie Stoneberg - Fantasy Football Toolbox 46 10 26 James Christensen - NEPatriotsDraft.com 46 10 26 5 Mike Loyko - NE Patriots Draft 45 10 25 6 Steven Lourie - Football Fan Spot 45 9 27 Ken Zalis - FansFantasyFootball.com 45 9 27 8 Erik Galko - Optimum Scouting 44 9 26 9 JP Miguel - 10 Jardas 43 9 25 Michael Harman - DraftMaven.com 43 9 25 Lou Pickney - Draft King 43 9 25 12 Keet Bailey - NFL Soup 42 9 24 13 Forrest N. Long - Fantasy Football Toolbox 42 8 26 Alex Brown - Optimum Scouting 42 8 26 Hunter Ansley - Draft Zoo 42 8 26 Matt Falk - NFLDraftSeason.com 42 8 26 17 Jason Boris - Times News 42 7 28 18 NFL Fans.com - Scout Team 41 8 25 19 Nolan Vasan - NFL Draft Geek 41 7 27 Al Fronczak - East Coast Sports News 41 7 27 Sam Farmer - LA Times 41 7 27 Brad Clark - NFL's Future 41 7 27 Mel Kiper - ESPN 41 7 27 Ben Morgan - Draft Board Insider 41 7 27 Ryan McCrystal - Draft Ace 41 7 27 Dan Kadar - Mocking the Draft 41 7 27 27 Scott Carasik - Scar Draft 40 8 24 Ricky Dimon - Fantasy Football Toolbox 40 8 24 Jesse Bartolis - NFL Mocks 40 8 24 Matt Elder - Buffalo Bills Draft 40 8 24 Kevin Roberts - NFL Soup 40 8 24 32 Spence & Engle - Draft Breakdown 40 7 26 Lance Zierlein - The Sideline View 40 7 26 Doug Martz - Draft Board Guru 40 7 26 Colin Lindsay - Great Blue North 40 7 26 Luchene & Mecino - NFL Rough Draft 40 7 26 Mark Mitchell - Draft Board Insider 40 7 26 Doug Kurnel - Draft Hybrid 40 7 26 Nolan Nawrocki - Pro Football Weekly 40 7 26 40 Tommy Lawlor - Scouts Notebook 39 7 25 D. Orlando Ledbetter - Atlanta Journal Constitutional 39 7 25 Matthew Fairburn - Mocking the Draft 39 7 25 Robby Esch - The Huddle Report 39 7 25 Adam Baliatico - Mocking the Draft 39 7 25 Matt Alkire - Scouts Notebook 39 7 25 Walter Deptula - WCCPFM.com 39 7 25 Matt McDonnell - College Sports Madness 39 7 25 Doug Kyed - NE Patriots Draft 39 7 25 Erik Dolan - Buffalo Bills Draft 39 7 25 Jimmy O'Brien - Draft Breakdown 39 7 25 Jeff Christiansen - Fantasy Football Toolbox 39 7 0 52 Brian Bosarge - Deep Fried Draft 39 6 27 Ryan Lownes - Draft Breakdown 39 6 27 Sideline Scouting - Staff 39 6 27 John Clifford - Draft Board Insider 39 6 27 56 Jake Cox - DraftTake.com 38 7 24 Dan Viens - NFL Mocks 38 7 24 Football Draft Notebook 38 7 24 Brian Fitzgerald - Draft Daddy 38 7 24 Matt Binstock - Fantasy Football Toolbox 38 7 24 61 Curt Popejoy - Draft Board Insider 38 6 26 Brian Phlipot - The Football Hub 38 6 26 Charles Davis - NFL Network 38 6 26 Clint Clearwater - The Football Expert 38 6 26 Bryan Martin - NFL Mocks 38 6 26 Evan Silva - Rotoworld 38 6 26 Joe Everett - Rookie Draft 38 6 26 Josh Norris - Rotoworld 38 6 26 69 Tony Pauline - TFY Draft Insider 37 7 23 Ryan McKenzie - Fantasy Football Toolbox 37 7 23 Draft Tek - Computer Mock 37 7 23 72 Rob Rang - CBS 37 6 25 Glenn Bernardi - Draft Daddy 37 6 25 Peter Schrager - Fox Sports 37 6 25 Robert Bryant - Draft Dog 37 6 25 Mike Kirby - Mocking the Draft 37 6 25 Walton Spurlin - Fantasy Football Toolbox 37 6 25 Bill Viola - Saturdays 2 Sundays 37 6 25 Dan Hope - Sports Writers Alliance 37 6 25 80 Mike Mayock - NFL Network 37 5 27 81 Todd Kleinheinz - NFL Draft Pros 36 7 22 Draft Site .com 36 7 22 83 Paul Guillemette - Pigskin Paul's Place 36 6 24 Drew Boylhart - The Huddle Report 36 6 24 Josh Gleason - The Cover Two 36 6 24 Scott Wright - Draft Countdown 36 6 24 Joel Welser - College Sports Madness 36 6 24 Rob Warner - Fantasy Football Toolbox 36 6 24 NFL DRAFT SPECIALIST 36 6 24 Mihai Mitrache - OG Draft 36 6 24 Todd Salem - College Sports Madness 36 6 24 Chris Steuber - ChrisSteuber.com 36 6 24 93 MyNFLDraft.com 36 5 26 Sayre Bedinger - NFL Mocks 36 5 26 Mackenzie Pantoja - NFL Mocks 36 5 26 96 Eric Stoner - Draft Breakdown 35 6 23 Matt Bitonti - Draft Daddy 35 6 23 Cody Benjamin - Bleeds-Green.com 35 6 23 Matt De Lima - Fantasy Football Toolbox 35 6 23 100 Peter Clarke - The Sports Chronicles 35 5 25 101 JR Glymph - NFL Draft Blitz 34 6 22 102 Mike Schottey - DraftTek.com 34 4 26 103 Jonathan Cook - Draft Bulletin 33 5 23 104 Scott Garbarini - The Sports Network 33 4 25 105 Jeff Mullen - Draft Line 32 5 22 106 Mike Band - Draft Ace 32 4 24 107 Josh Wingate - Scar Draft 31 4 23

04-10-2013, 05:02 PM	#28
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Crap Shoot...

04-10-2013, 05:13 PM	#29
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft Originally Posted by saintfan Crap Shoot... Yep, we should just pull names out of a hat instead of paying all those scouts.

04-10-2013, 05:20 PM	#30
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Kiper's Latest Mock Draft all under 50%. so in the end they go home broke and owing. its all media hype to drive the ratings baby.

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