Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints

SmashMouth · 04-12-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I'm not against signing him to vet minimum but let's get real here. The only reason he has been in "talks" with the Saints is because no one else wants him. That's what we in the investigatory business call a "clue".

True Dat.. however Julian Edelman was not offered either and he is a decent pick up.
Pats get Julian Edelman for bargain price | ProFootballTalk

I guess there are exceptions.

Cruize · 04-12-2013, 05:38 PM

He's certainly worth the vet minimum. He's solid. He just hasn't been the impact player the Saints hoped for when they drafted him so highly. They have done worse.

QBREES9 · 04-12-2013, 09:29 PM

Man its April 12 not April 1st

homerj07 · 04-13-2013, 12:19 AM

Well. No

burningmetal · 04-13-2013, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats not heart.

If you wanna claim production, I can see your point. But you are in no position to judge his heart.

Effort is all about heart. You can have a great career in college, come into the league and be a big flop, and sometimes it's just because you're over matched. Some guys try hard but just don't match up physically in the NFL. I'm not going to say Sedrick hasn't tried at all, but he has lacked a consistent motor. That IS about heart. I don't know what else you would think that comes from.

You can't have just some heart, you have to be all in. That goes for everything.

saintsfan1976 · 04-13-2013, 10:22 AM

Unless you're coaching or playing with Ellis, I don't think you can question his motivation.

We are talking about a guy who plays DT here. I'm not gushing over sacks from a DT. Haloti Nagta is arguably the best DT in the NFL and he had 5 sacks last year...

What we want from Ellis is to control the line of scrimmage? Can he do that with his size? I haven't seen it too often. BUT what he can do - as Danno pointed out - is rotate in and be a rushing DT (if there is such a thing) on passing downs.

League min. Prove it in camp. If not, no harm. I don't see why people are having issues with this.

Belair57 · 04-13-2013, 10:56 AM

hell, I could get .05 sacks over a 31 game span!!! pay me the min

SmashMouth · 04-13-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Belair57

hell, I could get .05 sacks over a 31 game span!!! pay me the min

Are you 6'3", 325 lbs? Go for it...

lee909 · 04-13-2013, 11:40 AM

As much as i want to see him gone,we have all the cards for this deal.
1 year with a team option for a second for a small salary,incentives extension.The lack of offers this summer may well have lit a fire under his backside.The players have got used to getting deals elsewhere if the didnt play as well as they good.That has stopped,not many teams paying big bucks on long term deals for FA.
He is serviceable as a back up at the very least.Fill as many holes predraft then draft who you want,not who you need.

FinSaint · 04-13-2013, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Are you 6'3", 325 lbs? Go for it...

Neither is Ellis.

04-12-2013, 05:15 PM	#31
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints Originally Posted by jnormand I'm not against signing him to vet minimum but let's get real here. The only reason he has been in "talks" with the Saints is because no one else wants him. That's what we in the investigatory business call a "clue". True Dat.. however Julian Edelman was not offered either and he is a decent pick up. Pats get Julian Edelman for bargain price \| ProFootballTalk I guess there are exceptions.

04-12-2013, 05:38 PM	#32
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,452	Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints He's certainly worth the vet minimum. He's solid. He just hasn't been the impact player the Saints hoped for when they drafted him so highly. They have done worse.
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04-13-2013, 01:54 AM	#35
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints Originally Posted by Danno Thats not heart. If you wanna claim production, I can see your point. But you are in no position to judge his heart. Effort is all about heart. You can have a great career in college, come into the league and be a big flop, and sometimes it's just because you're over matched. Some guys try hard but just don't match up physically in the NFL. I'm not going to say Sedrick hasn't tried at all, but he has lacked a consistent motor. That IS about heart. I don't know what else you would think that comes from. You can't have just some heart, you have to be all in. That goes for everything. jeanpierre and K Major like this.

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04-13-2013, 10:22 AM	#36
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints Unless you're coaching or playing with Ellis, I don't think you can question his motivation. We are talking about a guy who plays DT here. I'm not gushing over sacks from a DT. Haloti Nagta is arguably the best DT in the NFL and he had 5 sacks last year... What we want from Ellis is to control the line of scrimmage? Can he do that with his size? I haven't seen it too often. BUT what he can do - as Danno pointed out - is rotate in and be a rushing DT (if there is such a thing) on passing downs. League min. Prove it in camp. If not, no harm. I don't see why people are having issues with this. Danno likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints Originally Posted by Belair57 hell, I could get .05 sacks over a 31 game span!!! pay me the min Are you 6'3", 325 lbs? Go for it...

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: Sedrick Ellis in contact with Saints Originally Posted by SmashMouth Are you 6'3", 325 lbs? Go for it... Neither is Ellis.

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