Vilma in our 3-4 scheme
 

Just wondering how/what his role will be to make him more successful in our 3-4 vs. when he was a Jet and struggled with it. Thoughts?

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he struggled in the middle so I expect to seem him outside which should work fairly well. right now i would list him as our best pass coverage LB. It will be interesting to watch after an off season with no major rehab.

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The Jets ran a bit different type of a 3-4 back then than what Rob Ryan is going to run in New Orleans now, so I think Vilma will fit into the scheme, just not as an every down LB.

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Ryan switches between formations frequently, so Vilma will see the field some I suppose... 3-4, 4-3 personnel "46", and his Psycho 1-5-5 formation

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Yep, the WILB in Ryan's 3-4 is nearly identical to the WILL in a 4-3.

Lofton is the one I'm worried about.

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Vilma should either play ILB next to Lofton or ride the bench and wait for passing situations to get in coverage. OLB would be an awful fit; he's undersized for the OLB positions. At 230 Vilma would get crushed on running plays and now lacks explosiveness to be a pass rusher. What he does have going for him is the instincts and knowledge of the game.

Vilma best place on the team is coaching our young talent.

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What exactly has you worried Danno?

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He's always played MLB in a 4-3. He hasn't played in a base 3-4 scheme yet, and playing that SILB spot is a lot different than a 4-3 MLB. Its the same thing Vilma tried to do but didn't do well. Vilma did OK, but went from an A-player to a B-player with that same transition. Lofton is only a tad bigger than Vilma, 1 inch shorter but 10 pounds heavier. He'll be taking on OG's a lot more than he did at MLB.

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Thank you for that insight!:cool:

As of yet no one has mentioned that Rex is probably getting a little feed back about the inside scoop in regards to the Saints running back Chris Ivory.

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I was thinking the same thing, but I believe he'll be fine. His true weakness is pass coverage. I see Vilma as a weakside outside linebacker rotating with Martez Wilson, Gallete or Butler being our strong side pass rusher. Lofton and Hawthorne in the middle. I expect a big improvement from Hawthorne. I'm beginng to hope we draft Vacarro, get rid of Harper and move Jenkins to the SS.

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I think I remember Sean Payton said in an article a few week ago that Vilma will fit as a WILB...........with the Jets he was asked to be a SILB. Being older and little more savvy might help him! Besides back then he wasn't willing to make the transition, now he embracing it.

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He did leave NY to get out of a 3-4 & he is getting older & more injury prone

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the WILB in Ryan's 3-4 is nearly identical to the WILL in a 4-3.

Its a different 3-4.

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Would like to See Ingram give PT a serious Run for the lead back Role

Would like to See All Our New LB's Find where they are strongest ( Most Destructive )

Would like to See Hicks V Anyone that will supply us with a passrush



More than anything want to see Ingram V PT , Ingrams due

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Your absolutely right be cause Payton said in an interview that in Ryan's 3-4 the weak side Guard is often covered which is how the 4-3 is played. Shows that SP did his research before hiring Ryan! Gotta love our coach.

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I agree with Danno, and I'd be a little worried if I was Lofton, because he seemed to me like he was brought in to replace Vilma when Vilma's future was uncertain with the suspensions and injuries (remember before the penalties came down people were speculating about a possible lifetime ban for Vilma), and although I don't dislike him, to me Lofton kinda has the stink of the Spagnuolo hire upon him now, he's kind of a symbol of the "worst defense in history" 4-3 era from when Payton was mostly out of the building, and now the team is clearly moving in a different direction.

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I want to see how Lofton handles the Ryan 3-4, before I give up on him.

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Lofton was in on every tackle.

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This season could wash him clean. We'll see, as I'll bet you, barring injury, fifty dollars to a bucket of **** he ain't going anywhere.

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I agree with concerns but i have to put the entire roster of ILB we have now.

this is going to be one of the area to watch for sure

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Hey Mitch,
Why would you want to give up on Lofton? In my opinion, he along with Cam Jordan were one of the very few on D last season who didn't have the U-Haul packed and ready for vacation. Lofton will be fine... even more so with The Big Lebowski calling the shots in the 3-4.

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That was a comment on SaintsBro's post, and I used a bad choice of words with "giving up"...