New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility

Danno · 04-17-2013, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Twenty tackles last year's not a bad number. What'd we have overall, like twenty five or so?

I'm likin' they're going to put him on the end as well. I just feel that'll be a better fit with his quickness instead of using him to eat centers and guards.

Thats why the Ravens moved Ngata to DE, I think.

FinSaint · 04-18-2013, 04:21 AM

I disagree with the article in that Hicks' skill set would be somewhat mismanaged if he were to be positioned at the 0- or 1-gap on a regular basis. Hicks is best suited to be a 3-4 DE, IMO, because his physical traits would allow him to occupy double teams on a constant basis while NTs should ideally have a lower center of gravity for leverage up the middle - more in line with majority of the centers around the league.

In any case, Hicks was my pre-draft pick last year - although I admit that I wanted Derek Wolfe with the 3rd round pick and thought that Hicks would've been available as late as the 5th round - and I'm excited to see him develop under Rob Ryan for the foreseeable future.

hagan714 · 04-18-2013, 04:40 AM

the more i relearn the 34 defense the more i am leaning to a little shorter stronger NT. a fire plug. tall NT do have their draw backs on running downs. So i see Hicks clogging up the middle on passing downs. then again lets see this style of 34 we are running in action first

no matter how the defense turns out i am looking forward to seeing how each position plays out by seasons end

Rugby Saint II · 04-18-2013, 12:34 PM

I could see him playing both effectively depending on down and distance.

Shoe. · 04-18-2013, 12:46 PM

JMO but i think getting Hicks (and maybe Corey White) may be the only good thing Spags did for us

Danno · 04-18-2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

JMO but i think getting Hicks (and maybe Corey White) may be the only good thing Spags did for us

I doubt he had anything to do with either of those picks.

Shoe. · 04-18-2013, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I doubt he had anything to do with either of those picks.

Normally I agree w most of what you have to say, but saying that a new DC wouldn't have anything to do with his first defensive draft picks...yeah, smh on that one sir

or did I miss the "/sarcasm?"

Danno · 04-18-2013, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Shoe.

Normally I agree w most of what you have to say, but saying that a new DC wouldn't have anything to do with his first defensive draft picks...yeah, smh on that one sir

or did I miss the "/sarcasm?"

I think too many people think coordinators have a lot of input into who the GM selects.

You're right, he probably had some input, but I doubt it was much at all.

Seer1 · 04-18-2013, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think too many people think coordinators have a lot of input into who the GM selects.

You're right, he probably had some input, but I doubt it was much at all.

I've always thought they had more input on the FA side of things.

FinSaint · 04-18-2013, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I doubt he had anything to do with either of those picks.

Spags reportedly brought over some scouts from the Rams' organization with him, so maybe that played a part in some of the defensive picks.

04-17-2013, 05:52 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility Originally Posted by Seer1 Twenty tackles last year's not a bad number. What'd we have overall, like twenty five or so? I'm likin' they're going to put him on the end as well. I just feel that'll be a better fit with his quickness instead of using him to eat centers and guards. Thats why the Ravens moved Ngata to DE, I think.

04-18-2013, 04:21 AM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility I disagree with the article in that Hicks' skill set would be somewhat mismanaged if he were to be positioned at the 0- or 1-gap on a regular basis. Hicks is best suited to be a 3-4 DE, IMO, because his physical traits would allow him to occupy double teams on a constant basis while NTs should ideally have a lower center of gravity for leverage up the middle - more in line with majority of the centers around the league. In any case, Hicks was my pre-draft pick last year - although I admit that I wanted Derek Wolfe with the 3rd round pick and thought that Hicks would've been available as late as the 5th round - and I'm excited to see him develop under Rob Ryan for the foreseeable future.
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04-18-2013, 04:40 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility the more i relearn the 34 defense the more i am leaning to a little shorter stronger NT. a fire plug. tall NT do have their draw backs on running downs. So i see Hicks clogging up the middle on passing downs. then again lets see this style of 34 we are running in action first no matter how the defense turns out i am looking forward to seeing how each position plays out by seasons end Seer1 and SaintnDE like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility I could see him playing both effectively depending on down and distance.

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Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility JMO but i think getting Hicks (and maybe Corey White) may be the only good thing Spags did for us

04-18-2013, 02:40 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility Originally Posted by Shoe. JMO but i think getting Hicks (and maybe Corey White) may be the only good thing Spags did for us I doubt he had anything to do with either of those picks.

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Shoe. 500th Post Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Hub City Posts: 576	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility Originally Posted by Danno I doubt he had anything to do with either of those picks. Normally I agree w most of what you have to say, but saying that a new DC wouldn't have anything to do with his first defensive draft picks...yeah, smh on that one sir or did I miss the "/sarcasm?" RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility Originally Posted by Shoe. Normally I agree w most of what you have to say, but saying that a new DC wouldn't have anything to do with his first defensive draft picks...yeah, smh on that one sir or did I miss the "/sarcasm?" I think too many people think coordinators have a lot of input into who the GM selects. You're right, he probably had some input, but I doubt it was much at all.

04-18-2013, 09:20 PM	#9
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility Originally Posted by Danno I think too many people think coordinators have a lot of input into who the GM selects. You're right, he probably had some input, but I doubt it was much at all. I've always thought they had more input on the FA side of things.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: New Orleans Saints Will Utilize Akiem Hicks’ Versatility Originally Posted by Danno I doubt he had anything to do with either of those picks. Spags reportedly brought over some scouts from the Rams' organization with him, so maybe that played a part in some of the defensive picks.

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