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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz Since this obvious is a response to my post, I think it's stupid you think it's stupid. And what position is Jenkins playing now? They both have the flexibility to cover receivers and tight ends. I'm ...

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Old 04-26-2013, 07:13 AM   #1
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Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

Originally Posted by papz View Post
Since this obvious is a response to my post, I think it's stupid you think it's stupid. And what position is Jenkins playing now? They both have the flexibility to cover receivers and tight ends. I'm also not overly concerned about neither player's ability to get an INT. He's also been compared to All Pro Eric Weddle. Is that stupid too? Eric Weddle was a CB/FS hybrid when he was drafted. Since when was it so stupid to compare players who play the same position? Genius.

Read this smarty pants.

WEAKNESSES Used extensively in man coverage and around the line, must continue improving as a reliable back-half defender against the pass and last line of defense against long runs. One-speed player who lacks burst. Is not quite agile or fast enough to stick with better NFL receivers, backpedal is high and stiff, can be out-quicked in space, and loses a step running down the seam. Can get caught freelancing and watching the backfield in zone coverage, and will bite on play action. Knee injury ended his senior season in high school after three games. Can fill downhill out of control, losing his leverage on the ball carrier and missing tackles. Doesn’t always take good angles and is prone to running himself too far upfield when he’s the “force” defender.

Now if you take your defensive blinders off, think about it. Does this not sound similar to Jenkins? Hell they even tackle alike. Go look at his reel. Go get a hand rag and take your aggression out somewhere else.



And just in case you missed it, I'm more than okay with the Vaccaro pick and was so throughout the process. I did not compare him to Jenkins as an insult... as I think the world of Jenkins' ability. I think Vaccaro can be just as good as Jenkins when he flashed his potential a few years ago. Which means, I think Vaccaro can be an All Pro type safety. Hopefully he'll be more consistent than Jenkins and fulfill his potential.

The nerve.
Actually I never responded to you, smart guy. The Jenkins comment was towards KySaintsFan. Go back and check before you start making crazy ass, off the wall assumptions, cool?

There is a DIFFERENCE between an elite CB and an ELITE safety.
Jenkins might could have been an elite corner, we'll never know. He, however, is NOT an elite safety. He never or hardly ever played safety in college or high school, meaning he learned a completely different position.

Oh, and if you actually believe there's hardly a difference between CB and safety because they "both cover WR's and TE's", you know absolutely nothing about secondary and coverage schemes.
Would appreciate it if you only call me out like that when spoken to first though, buddy.

The nerve.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:36 AM   #2
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Re: New Orleans Saints select Texas safety Kenny Vaccaro with the 15th pick

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Actually I never responded to you, smart guy. The Jenkins comment was towards KySaintsFan. Go back and check before you start making crazy ass, off the wall assumptions, cool?
Off wall assumptions? I also made the comparison and you did not quote who you were responding to. So how is it even close to being off the wall? You know what that means right. Regardless, it doesn't make a difference who you were responding too. The content remains the same. Maybe next time you want to go back and quote who you're responding to, cool?

There is a DIFFERENCE between an elite CB and an ELITE safety.
Jenkins might could have been an elite corner, we'll never know. He, however, is NOT an elite safety. He never or hardly ever played safety in college or high school, meaning he learned a completely different position.
Okay so what? I can't compare the two because one was moved to safety and one played safety in college? Makes perfect sense.

Oh, and if you actually believe there's hardly a difference between CB and safety because they "both cover WR's and TE's", you know absolutely nothing about secondary and coverage schemes.
I don't believe that. So you can throw that assumption out the window.

Would appreciate it if you only call me out like that when spoken to first though, buddy.

The nerve.
Would appreciate it if you be more specific. However it really made little difference as I thought your statement was ridiculous as is.

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

All little common sense goes a long way.
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