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looks like stallworth will have a big game this week

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

I don\'t think it would really matter if Rumph plays or not, he could\'nt catch Stallworth anyway and it\'s only a matter of time before Stallworth figures out speed kills.

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

Donte can be great if he figures out not to let people and mistakes get into his head

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

I\'m going to catch it big time from Saintfan and the like on this one, but...

Donte\'s speed won\'t matter until AB figures out how to either A) throw the deep ball or B) hit a receiver IN-STRIDE on a slant or coming across the middle. If Brooks can\'t give Stallworth the ability to catch and run, his speed will continue to be a non-factor.

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

Brooks most definately does NOT have the ability to give Stallworth the ability to catch or to run. Brooks can only get him the ball.

Having said that let us all remember what Tom Landry once said about receivers:

Tom said, \"If you can touch it, you can catch it.\" These guys are pros, and while I\'d like to see Brooks hit \'em in the numbers every time I feel that might be asking more than he (or anyone) can deliver. Catch the damn ball!

By the way Whodat, that pass Brooks loftet to Pathon was on the money man. Jerome has to catch that ball and you know it.

[Edited on 17/9/2004 by saintfan]

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What about the one on third down where Pathon had 2 yards on a safety coming across the middle and Brooks threw a ten yard pass on a crossing route 3 yards behind Pathon? He hits Pathon in the hands and Pathon goes for 30. There was nothing but green.

Look, I don\'t want to get into a breakdown of every incomplete pass AB threw, but I will... ;) Point is, of the incomplete passes thrown by AB in week 1, I saw more than were his fault than his receivers\' fault. He probably had three maybe four balls that were dropped (truly) by the receiver. He missed at least that many, some that were critical - like 3rd down wide open, and deep balls to Horn, Stallworth, and Pathon than all could have gone for TDs.

C\'mon Saintfan, don\'t start doing the defend AB at all costs thing. The guy just doesn\'t have a lot of touch and misses a good deal of passes... maybe last week was just rust. I hope so, b/c if he plays like that all year I\'ll be eating my words about seeing him in the Pro Bowl .

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

The pass was behind Pathon, but three yards??? Come on, WhoDat, were you watching the same game that I was? If it was 3 yards behind him, it would have sailed past him, untouched. AB should have put the pass in front of him, but it still bounced off his body, and it wasn\'t like Pathon brought his \'A\' game this past weekend. Bad pass, but he still had a play on the ball.

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This is assuming that had Brooks hit him in the numbers he would have somehow managed to do the unthinkable and actually catch the stupid thing. ;)

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

I disagree with this absolutely, and not because I\'m defending Brooks Whodat. Our receivers don\'t catch balls that him them in the hands. 08 says it\'s because Brooks throws too hard. Pa-Lease! Tell that to Farve, k?

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Ok, 2 yards. It didn\'t hit him in the body at all. He jumped, spun and stuck his hand out behind him to keep it from being intercepted. That\'s not the difference of a few inches. That\'s the difference of a few feet.

Disagree all you want Saintfan - do you have a copy of the game? Go back and looks - Brooks missed more opportunities than the receivers dropped balls that could be expected to be caught (i.e. not the ones where receivers have to stop moving in the direction they are going and jump back in the opposite direction just to get a hand on the ball).

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

I saw that play. The pass was definitely behind the receiver, which is not a particularly good idea in the middle of the field.

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

I guess then that our difference in opinion here lies in our definition of \"expected to be caught\" then. ;)

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

I am beginning to wonder if any of the Saint\'s will truly have an \"A\" game this year. I thought they got paid a whole lot of money to be on their \"A\" game all the time. I guess I was wrong, is it me or was football alot better all around about 20 to 30 years ago. When I remember back to those days, I seem to remember alot more of the players busting a@@ to make plays, even when they were out of shape or hung over. What\'s up with the players today, no heart, that\'s what\'s up and remember to have to have a heart to live!
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cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

Just went back and watched the play. You are correct, sir, it did not hit his body. But it was catchable, hell he was trying to catch it, not knock it down- his arms were curdled to make the catch. Bad throw, but third and seven, Horn would have caught that, easy.

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

every thread leads to brooks around here

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

Back to the topic,

Any of us feel like McCarthy will be able to exploit a back-up CB?

Or that Venturi will be able to exploit a back-up QB and Back-up Center?

I guess this is actually a scenario where I feel injuries DON\'T matter.

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Yeah, probably. It\'s one thing if your QB is hit while he throws or running for his life - in that case, if the ball is anywhere near you as a WR, you\'ve got to make that play. On the other hand, if you\'re running down field open by two yards in the NFL and your QB has time to step and throw, I think the onis is on the QB to put the ball in a place where the WR doesn\'t have to sellout just to get a hand on th ball. When guys are open, Brooks has to hit them. I didn\'t see a ton of good throws last week.

That\'s not to say the game was Brooks\' fault. Not at all. This one definitely has to lie at the feet of the offense though. The D allowed only 21 to one of the best offenses in the league, and much of those points came against a flat worn out defense.

On the other hand, our offense couldn\'t do much against a suspect defense. Everyone on O played poorly. I don\'t put this one on AB - his play was not better or worse than the rest of those bums. ;)

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every thread leads to brooks... LMAO. Get a life people. I think that this cb that is out doesn\'t mean our WR will have a great game. Just means that if we are beating them why throw it??? so means they will have a quiet game is all...

cornerback mike rumph is listed as doubtfulfor niners
 

See that Screen pass Ernie just dropped? Hit him square in the hands.