What about Saints signing Ronde Barber?

jeanpierre · 05-02-2013, 09:51 PM

I'm old school - I would have stopped watching the Saints had they signed Joe Montana...

I want to draft, develop, and keep our good players, both character and talent, for the duration of their careers...

Hate Bum Phillips for trading Archie...

skymike · 05-03-2013, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'm old school - I would have stopped watching the Saints had they signed Joe Montana...

I want to draft, develop, and keep our good players, both character and talent, for the duration of their careers...

Hate Bum Phillips for trading Archie...

Im a big fan of Bum, but I
can completely understand that sentiment, especially with what Archie
meant to New Orleans. I think that was the worst mistake he ever
made. And obviously, it didnt pay. He had no way of knowing Earl
had some kind of pre-mature aging illness. But STABLER???? I didnt
like Stabler when he was an Oiler.

I hate to think "what if," but what if Bum hadnt made that move, and we had THAT defense, our solid running game, Morten Andersen, AND Archie at the top of his game with his experience? We should have
been a top tier NFC team. Instead we wobble through with The Snake,
Richard Todd, and Dave freakin Wilson. (and People who trash Bobby either forget, or arent aware of what we lived through between Archie and him. Bobby at one time represented the best chance we ever had.)

JP, its great chatting to an old schooler like yourself. I hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here. To be
honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it.

But I digress.
I'd take Ronde. Im nearly 50, so 38 doesnt sound old to me. Hell, I
could still run until about a year ago.

jeanpierre · 05-03-2013, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

II hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here.

To be honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it.

I'll be an Archie fan to my end...

One of the finest people I've had the Blessing to have met on several occasions throughout my life...

His sons are a testament to he and his lovely lady; and I pull for them as I feel I'm still cheering Archie...

Fate was cruel sending his son in opposition to our first Superbowl appearance - it was bittersweet, mostly sweet, but I'd still pull for either Manning, even when I hate New York...

hagan714 · 05-04-2013, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Im a big fan of Bum, but I
can completely understand that sentiment, especially with what Archie
meant to New Orleans. I think that was the worst mistake he ever
made. And obviously, it didnt pay. He had no way of knowing Earl
had some kind of pre-mature aging illness. But STABLER???? I didnt
like Stabler when he was an Oiler.

I hate to think "what if," but what if Bum hadnt made that move, and we had THAT defense, our solid running game, Morten Andersen, AND Archie at the top of his game with his experience? We should have
been a top tier NFC team. Instead we wobble through with The Snake,
Richard Todd, and Dave freakin Wilson. (and People who trash Bobby either forget, or arent aware of what we lived through between Archie and him. Bobby at one time represented the best chance we ever had.)

JP, its great chatting to an old schooler like yourself. I hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here. To be
honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it.

But I digress.
I'd take Ronde. Im nearly 50, so 38 doesnt sound old to me. Hell, I
could still run until about a year ago.

It was John W. Mecom, Jr that screwed Manning. Archie Manning was traded to the Houston Oilers for T Leon Gray. Which at the time was not that bad a deal. Gray was a solid OT. It was the way it was done. Over night and without warning, It also ticked the fans off the oiler were in the tank and they traded their best OL at the same time. It was no way to treat Archie after all he had done. Then again Mecom loved being the playboy owner more than winning IMO. So he really did not care

Kenny Stabler signed as a free agent. Kenny The Snake Stabler was unreal and if you could figure how creative he was at playing the spread you made good money. Still to this day no one player has ever been more creative in ways to throw a games.

Tom Benson then bought the saints from Mecom, Jr. the rest is history. The saints became contenders and Mora screwed the pooch and let our DC go in favor of OC. yep there was a some friction back then on this issue. That was the beginning of the end. That was Mora's biggest mistake. The defense was gutted in the next couple of years and Mora was shown the door.

Everyone forgets BUM built the Dome Patrol. So Mora needs to thank Bum for the Dome Patrol and most of his success.

As for barber i say pass. enough old timers on defense. we have started a youth movement lets keep it going and take our lumps with their growing pains.

foreverfan · 05-05-2013, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Im a big fan of Bum, but I
can completely understand that sentiment, especially with what Archie
meant to New Orleans. I think that was the worst mistake he ever
made. And obviously, it didnt pay. He had no way of knowing Earl
had some kind of pre-mature aging illness. But STABLER???? I didnt
like Stabler when he was an Oiler.

I hate to think "what if," but what if Bum hadnt made that move, and we had THAT defense, our solid running game, Morten Andersen, AND Archie at the top of his game with his experience? We should have
been a top tier NFC team. Instead we wobble through with The Snake,
Richard Todd, and Dave freakin Wilson. (and People who trash Bobby either forget, or arent aware of what we lived through between Archie and him. Bobby at one time represented the best chance we ever had.)

JP, its great chatting to an old schooler like yourself. I hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here. To be
honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it.

But I digress.
I'd take Ronde. Im nearly 50, so 38 doesnt sound old to me. Hell, I
could still run until about a year ago.

Damn you're old.

05-02-2013, 09:51 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What about Saints signing Ronde Barber? I'm old school - I would have stopped watching the Saints had they signed Joe Montana... I want to draft, develop, and keep our good players, both character and talent, for the duration of their careers... Hate Bum Phillips for trading Archie... TheOak, Jamessr and aintasinner like this.

05-03-2013, 10:12 AM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: What about Saints signing Ronde Barber? Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'm old school - I would have stopped watching the Saints had they signed Joe Montana... I want to draft, develop, and keep our good players, both character and talent, for the duration of their careers... Hate Bum Phillips for trading Archie... Im a big fan of Bum, but I can completely understand that sentiment, especially with what Archie meant to New Orleans. I think that was the worst mistake he ever made. And obviously, it didnt pay. He had no way of knowing Earl had some kind of pre-mature aging illness. But STABLER???? I didnt like Stabler when he was an Oiler. I hate to think "what if," but what if Bum hadnt made that move, and we had THAT defense, our solid running game, Morten Andersen, AND Archie at the top of his game with his experience? We should have been a top tier NFC team. Instead we wobble through with The Snake, Richard Todd, and Dave freakin Wilson. (and People who trash Bobby either forget, or arent aware of what we lived through between Archie and him. Bobby at one time represented the best chance we ever had.) JP, its great chatting to an old schooler like yourself. I hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here. To be honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it. But I digress. I'd take Ronde. Im nearly 50, so 38 doesnt sound old to me. Hell, I could still run until about a year ago. hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

05-03-2013, 11:21 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What about Saints signing Ronde Barber? Originally Posted by skymike II hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here. To be honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it. I'll be an Archie fan to my end... One of the finest people I've had the Blessing to have met on several occasions throughout my life... His sons are a testament to he and his lovely lady; and I pull for them as I feel I'm still cheering Archie... Fate was cruel sending his son in opposition to our first Superbowl appearance - it was bittersweet, mostly sweet, but I'd still pull for either Manning, even when I hate New York... skymike likes this.

05-04-2013, 04:47 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What about Saints signing Ronde Barber? Originally Posted by skymike Im a big fan of Bum, but I can completely understand that sentiment, especially with what Archie meant to New Orleans. I think that was the worst mistake he ever made. And obviously, it didnt pay. He had no way of knowing Earl had some kind of pre-mature aging illness. But STABLER???? I didnt like Stabler when he was an Oiler. I hate to think "what if," but what if Bum hadnt made that move, and we had THAT defense, our solid running game, Morten Andersen, AND Archie at the top of his game with his experience? We should have been a top tier NFC team. Instead we wobble through with The Snake, Richard Todd, and Dave freakin Wilson. (and People who trash Bobby either forget, or arent aware of what we lived through between Archie and him. Bobby at one time represented the best chance we ever had.) JP, its great chatting to an old schooler like yourself. I hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here. To be honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it. But I digress. I'd take Ronde. Im nearly 50, so 38 doesnt sound old to me. Hell, I could still run until about a year ago. It was John W. Mecom, Jr that screwed Manning. Archie Manning was traded to the Houston Oilers for T Leon Gray. Which at the time was not that bad a deal. Gray was a solid OT. It was the way it was done. Over night and without warning, It also ticked the fans off the oiler were in the tank and they traded their best OL at the same time. It was no way to treat Archie after all he had done. Then again Mecom loved being the playboy owner more than winning IMO. So he really did not care Kenny Stabler signed as a free agent. Kenny The Snake Stabler was unreal and if you could figure how creative he was at playing the spread you made good money. Still to this day no one player has ever been more creative in ways to throw a games. Tom Benson then bought the saints from Mecom, Jr. the rest is history. The saints became contenders and Mora screwed the pooch and let our DC go in favor of OC. yep there was a some friction back then on this issue. That was the beginning of the end. That was Mora's biggest mistake. The defense was gutted in the next couple of years and Mora was shown the door. Everyone forgets BUM built the Dome Patrol. So Mora needs to thank Bum for the Dome Patrol and most of his success. As for barber i say pass. enough old timers on defense. we have started a youth movement lets keep it going and take our lumps with their growing pains. TheOak likes this.
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05-05-2013, 04:02 PM	#5
foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: What about Saints signing Ronde Barber? Originally Posted by skymike Im a big fan of Bum, but I can completely understand that sentiment, especially with what Archie meant to New Orleans. I think that was the worst mistake he ever made. And obviously, it didnt pay. He had no way of knowing Earl had some kind of pre-mature aging illness. But STABLER???? I didnt like Stabler when he was an Oiler. I hate to think "what if," but what if Bum hadnt made that move, and we had THAT defense, our solid running game, Morten Andersen, AND Archie at the top of his game with his experience? We should have been a top tier NFC team. Instead we wobble through with The Snake, Richard Todd, and Dave freakin Wilson. (and People who trash Bobby either forget, or arent aware of what we lived through between Archie and him. Bobby at one time represented the best chance we ever had.) JP, its great chatting to an old schooler like yourself. I hope we can always preserve the proper love Archie Manning deserves here. To be honest, I root for Peyton and Eli to this day, unless they're playing against us. cant help it. But I digress. I'd take Ronde. Im nearly 50, so 38 doesnt sound old to me. Hell, I could still run until about a year ago. Damn you're old. skymike and Seer1 like this.

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