Saints’ Jimmy Graham Not a Member of PFF’s Top 101

Supertek · 05-09-2013, 06:58 AM

It has a lot to do with what the team did as a whole last year when you are not successful that is what you get.

FinSaint · 05-09-2013, 07:06 AM

Graham definitely doesn't belong on that list based on last season's performance. He's never been that great in the blocking game, which is understandable with him only having played a single year of football in college.

But his drops were the main reason why he was disappointing this past season. Graham had a catch rate of 63%, which was pretty bad, especially considering the fact that many of those drops were drive-killers that came at the worst possible moment. And for comparison, for those that say that Graham was targeted much more than the others which is why he exponentially dropped more passes than the rest of them: well Conzales was targeted only 11 times less than Graham, but managed to catch with a 75% catch rate. Hopefully, Graham will improve on this in the coming season (with the wrist surgically repaired), but it's not like it was a new aspect of his game.

Still, the most disappointing aspect of Graham's game to me is the fact that he has a very low YAC rate, which should be much higher with his physique and athleticism - he seems to go down far too easily.

TheOak · 05-09-2013, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by thebdj

If you watch the tape on JG, you will also see that too many times he got jumped by a DB. This rarely led to an interception but the pass was broken up.

Not only does he need to sort out the drop issues, he needs a bit more awareness and to use his body a bit better.

Let's however realise that I am criticising a player who I think has the potential to be the best in the league and one of the best of all time and is an almighty asset to the team. I'm also friends with his Mum

Unrealized potential has no value. If he wants it, he has to actually do it.
We as Saints fans invest our dream capital all too often on shoulda, woulda, coulda, used to be's.

Choupique · 05-09-2013, 07:16 AM

i don't really pay much attention to "top ten lists" that a yuppie writes.

pointless and meaningless...

Rugby Saint II · 05-09-2013, 12:17 PM

Ingram wasn't on the list either. However, this year expect to see a lot more Saints on that list.

homerj07 · 05-09-2013, 04:40 PM

For the team he was subpar. For fantasy he was still a stud

05-09-2013, 06:58 AM	#11
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Saints’ Jimmy Graham Not a Member of PFF’s Top 101 It has a lot to do with what the team did as a whole last year when you are not successful that is what you get.

05-09-2013, 07:06 AM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: Saints’ Jimmy Graham Not a Member of PFF’s Top 101 Graham definitely doesn't belong on that list based on last season's performance. He's never been that great in the blocking game, which is understandable with him only having played a single year of football in college. But his drops were the main reason why he was disappointing this past season. Graham had a catch rate of 63%, which was pretty bad, especially considering the fact that many of those drops were drive-killers that came at the worst possible moment. And for comparison, for those that say that Graham was targeted much more than the others which is why he exponentially dropped more passes than the rest of them: well Conzales was targeted only 11 times less than Graham, but managed to catch with a 75% catch rate. Hopefully, Graham will improve on this in the coming season (with the wrist surgically repaired), but it's not like it was a new aspect of his game. Still, the most disappointing aspect of Graham's game to me is the fact that he has a very low YAC rate, which should be much higher with his physique and athleticism - he seems to go down far too easily. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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05-09-2013, 07:11 AM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: Saints’ Jimmy Graham Not a Member of PFF’s Top 101 Originally Posted by thebdj If you watch the tape on JG, you will also see that too many times he got jumped by a DB. This rarely led to an interception but the pass was broken up. Not only does he need to sort out the drop issues, he needs a bit more awareness and to use his body a bit better. Let's however realise that I am criticising a player who I think has the potential to be the best in the league and one of the best of all time and is an almighty asset to the team. I'm also friends with his Mum Unrealized potential has no value. If he wants it, he has to actually do it. We as Saints fans invest our dream capital all too often on shoulda, woulda, coulda, used to be's.

05-09-2013, 07:16 AM	#14
Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: Saints’ Jimmy Graham Not a Member of PFF’s Top 101 i don't really pay much attention to "top ten lists" that a yuppie writes. pointless and meaningless...
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05-09-2013, 12:17 PM	#15
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,198	Re: Saints’ Jimmy Graham Not a Member of PFF’s Top 101 Ingram wasn't on the list either. However, this year expect to see a lot more Saints on that list.

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