2013 Running Game concerns

Rugby Saint II · 05-10-2013, 04:45 PM

My concerns are numerous.

Swapping out a LT
DLP back slid a little last year.....I don't know if teams game planned against him or not
Our current RT is subpar in my book and needs to be replaced
All of our RTs are unproven and have question marks
We have a new O-line coach
We have a new RB coach
Our two best backs are getting older
Our "feature" back has been under achieving
Ivory is no longer a Saint

But we do have coach Payton back so I'm not worried.

Boutte · 05-10-2013, 06:26 PM

Wish we still had Joique Bell.

homerj07 · 05-10-2013, 09:18 PM

I like the move.

Anyone with ANY chance of contributing to the team should be looked at

Rell&Gold · 05-10-2013, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Why commit to 4.6 Yards per carry when you can get 12.3 per pass? We run just enough to keep them honest.

That would be Great if we were avg 12.3 per pass

TheOak · 05-11-2013, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

That would be Great if we were avg 12.3 per pass

We averaged 7.3 yards per attempt and our receiving corps ave 12.3 yards per catch.

dizzle88 · 05-11-2013, 06:42 AM

As great as a mastermind of the offense SP is, seeing ingram get a running play up the middle, get smacked at the line and then come to sideline after one play annoys the hell out of me

Like its been said, make a decision and stick with it, sure RB rotation is good but not every damn play!

hagan714 · 05-11-2013, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

My concerns are numerous.

Swapping out a LT
DLP back slid a little last year.....I don't know if teams game planned against him or not
Our current RT is subpar in my book and needs to be replaced
All of our RTs are unproven and have question marks
We have a new O-line coach
We have a new RB coach
Our two best backs are getting older
Our "feature" back has been under achieving
Ivory is no longer a Saint

But we do have coach Payton back so I'm not worried.

Yep i agree but i am putting our OC in the mix. he needs to bounce back from last year and get better.

I predict that no matter how productive Ingram is or is not we will have him stuffed down our throats because he is a number one pick. so somethings wont change.

PT will pace the side lines wonder why he is not in while still being the saints best back that fits this offense. maybe they save him for that playoff push? nah do not buy it

Ingram will once again be wasted because the saints did not address the OL to fit his style. His only hope is to get involved in the passing game and keep teams from stacking the box

The saints will once again pass for first on third short more than they will convert with the run game

halloween 65 · 05-11-2013, 09:38 AM

On a 4th and inches I sure will miss Ivory who could turn it in to a positive with the D knowing who gets it.

jeanpierre · 05-11-2013, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

My concerns are numerous.

Swapping out a LT
DLP back slid a little last year.....I don't know if teams game planned against him or not
Our current RT is subpar in my book and needs to be replaced
All of our RTs are unproven and have question marks
We have a new O-line coach
We have a new RB coach
Our two best backs are getting older
Our "feature" back has been under achieving
Ivory is no longer a Saint

But we do have coach Payton back so I'm not worried.

There has to be a commitment and a rhythm to the running game - Carmichael still does not grasp this concept...

But I agree, with our offense, we need five (5) backs on the active roster - just in case a Seattle Scenario presents itself, again...

Originally Posted by hagan714

Ingram will once again be wasted because the saints did not address the OL to fit his style. His only hope is to get involved in the passing game and keep teams from stacking the box

The saints will once again pass for first on third short more than they will convert with the run game

The interior offensive line is fine, in fact, it is among the elite in both run and pass...

It's our Tackles that have not been up to par - but Armstead should help correct that and we have some nice battles setting up at Right Tackle...

Ingram needs to check his "tells" and work to gain the coaches' confidence in the passing game to be worthy of his first round pick - but I believe he's got the talent to do it...

Originally Posted by halloween 65

On a 4th and inches I sure will miss Ivory who could turn it in to a positive with the D knowing who gets it.

I see comments about how injury-prone Ivory was and yet he did some of the toughest running - hoping Ingram can pick up the slack and bust some of those 20+yard back breaking runs...

jnormand · 05-11-2013, 06:02 PM

I'm not really concerned about our RB rotation. I think with the loss of Ivory we are fine. The offensive line is the only question mark for me. Especially the tackles.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns My concerns are numerous. Swapping out a LT DLP back slid a little last year.....I don't know if teams game planned against him or not Our current RT is subpar in my book and needs to be replaced All of our RTs are unproven and have question marks We have a new O-line coach We have a new RB coach Our two best backs are getting older Our "feature" back has been under achieving Ivory is no longer a Saint But we do have coach Payton back so I'm not worried. hagan714 likes this.

05-10-2013, 06:26 PM	#12
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns Wish we still had Joique Bell.

05-10-2013, 09:18 PM	#13
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns I like the move. Anyone with ANY chance of contributing to the team should be looked at

05-10-2013, 11:45 PM	#14
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns Originally Posted by TheOak Why commit to 4.6 Yards per carry when you can get 12.3 per pass? We run just enough to keep them honest. That would be Great if we were avg 12.3 per pass

05-11-2013, 06:21 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns Originally Posted by Rell&Gold That would be Great if we were avg 12.3 per pass We averaged 7.3 yards per attempt and our receiving corps ave 12.3 yards per catch.

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05-11-2013, 06:42 AM	#16
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns As great as a mastermind of the offense SP is, seeing ingram get a running play up the middle, get smacked at the line and then come to sideline after one play annoys the hell out of me Like its been said, make a decision and stick with it, sure RB rotation is good but not every damn play!

05-11-2013, 07:42 AM	#17
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II My concerns are numerous. Swapping out a LT DLP back slid a little last year.....I don't know if teams game planned against him or not Our current RT is subpar in my book and needs to be replaced All of our RTs are unproven and have question marks We have a new O-line coach We have a new RB coach Our two best backs are getting older Our "feature" back has been under achieving Ivory is no longer a Saint But we do have coach Payton back so I'm not worried. Yep i agree but i am putting our OC in the mix. he needs to bounce back from last year and get better. I predict that no matter how productive Ingram is or is not we will have him stuffed down our throats because he is a number one pick. so somethings wont change. PT will pace the side lines wonder why he is not in while still being the saints best back that fits this offense. maybe they save him for that playoff push? nah do not buy it Ingram will once again be wasted because the saints did not address the OL to fit his style. His only hope is to get involved in the passing game and keep teams from stacking the box The saints will once again pass for first on third short more than they will convert with the run game
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05-11-2013, 09:38 AM	#18
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns On a 4th and inches I sure will miss Ivory who could turn it in to a positive with the D knowing who gets it.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II My concerns are numerous. Swapping out a LT DLP back slid a little last year.....I don't know if teams game planned against him or not Our current RT is subpar in my book and needs to be replaced All of our RTs are unproven and have question marks We have a new O-line coach We have a new RB coach Our two best backs are getting older Our "feature" back has been under achieving Ivory is no longer a Saint But we do have coach Payton back so I'm not worried. There has to be a commitment and a rhythm to the running game - Carmichael still does not grasp this concept... But I agree, with our offense, we need five (5) backs on the active roster - just in case a Seattle Scenario presents itself, again... Originally Posted by hagan714 Ingram will once again be wasted because the saints did not address the OL to fit his style. His only hope is to get involved in the passing game and keep teams from stacking the box The saints will once again pass for first on third short more than they will convert with the run game The interior offensive line is fine, in fact, it is among the elite in both run and pass... It's our Tackles that have not been up to par - but Armstead should help correct that and we have some nice battles setting up at Right Tackle... Ingram needs to check his "tells" and work to gain the coaches' confidence in the passing game to be worthy of his first round pick - but I believe he's got the talent to do it... Originally Posted by halloween 65 On a 4th and inches I sure will miss Ivory who could turn it in to a positive with the D knowing who gets it. I see comments about how injury-prone Ivory was and yet he did some of the toughest running - hoping Ingram can pick up the slack and bust some of those 20+yard back breaking runs...
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05-11-2013, 06:02 PM	#20
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,662	Re: 2013 Running Game concerns I'm not really concerned about our RB rotation. I think with the loss of Ivory we are fine. The offensive line is the only question mark for me. Especially the tackles.

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